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I've new to linux but I am considering changing from another OS to Bazzite but is there a way to use xbox360 controller configuration instead of the playstation default one? Since I am using a rog ally and it confuses me. I am also trying to use it to navigate the desktop mode so I don't have to keep using my keyboard via a dongle. Any help would be highly appreciated because I am not very linux savy I'm coming from windows.
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change the controler that is being emulated in hhd, however you will lose extended functionality like gyro and extra buttons (paddles/backbuttons) because the xbox controller does not support that
okay that's fine with me but question how would I go about changing it there is there a command I need to use?
i do not own any of the devices that use hhd so i do not know but i am 100000% sure it is mentioned in the hhd documentation which is linked to in the "alternative handhelds" section on the bazzite github
most likely you can change it through the decky plugin or through https://hhd.dev/
okay i will check it and see what I can find thank you though Hikari.
I am installing Bazzite in a couple seconds here.
np
If I can't figure it out I will let you guys know.
Is it better to make an account with root access on or off?
do not make a root account
make a normal user with admin access
Okay perfect just wanted to make sure thank you Hikari
There's a css theme so that you can use the dualsense with Xbox glypbs
For an Xbox layout? But does that affect how my games look also for button's in game?
games with native ps controller support will still show ps glyphs
prime examples are sony games and the yakuza/like a dragon series
Ahhh okay
So steam games I should fine?
from experience it is not very many games
those were games on steam
I play stray a lot just don't want to be confused because of the Xbox layout on the handheld itself.
games published by sony tend to have native ps controller support
the whole yakuza/like a dragon series has native ps controller support
I don't really play those so I should be fine
and i believe witcher 3 has ps controller support if memory serves me well
You can count the games with ds support on your fingers
Unfortunately broken
Does not support dualsense in Bluetooth on linux
dont we mean thankfully broken in this case? 🤔 or is it broken so its double input
So you don't get the glyphs
But you also don't get some cool stuff with the touchpad I think
Hey some games have cool lighting effects
tbh i prefer xbox glyphs on pc even when using non xbox controllers.
there is nothing i hate more than go from an xbox controller to a switch controller when playing yakuza/like a dragon and fail spectacularly on karaoke 😂
i prefer functional things than bling 😛
I don't really use gyro I'm super bad with it lol
oh i love gyro i use it wherever it makes sense
It's the details that make the difference
In the end
i can do some real fun stuff with it in warframe, like fly the ship using gyro, super fun
My aim is terrible with it lol I aim better without it
it has a learning curve (and to be fair quite a few games requires some fine adjusting for it)
it wasnt before using gyro in the deck that i got really used to it
before that i used it with the steam controller to varying success
now i cant play without it in a lot of games (well i can, but not well)
I just realized I think I hit the wrong thing when I was setting up my OS I have to redo it. :KannaFacePalm:
I forgot to hit Ally
you can rebase
plug in a keyboard and just
rpm-ostree rebase
to the ally imageGitHub
GitHub - ublue-os/bazzite: Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as a...
Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as an alternative operating system for the Steam Deck, and a ready-to-game SteamOS-like for desktop computers, living room home theater PCs, and numerous other h...
The screen is so damn small lol
rpm-ostree rebase ostree-image-signed:docker:ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-ally:stable
I have the worst vision
or if you wanted gnome
rpm-ostree rebase ostree-image-signed:docker:ghcr.io/ublue-os/bazzite-ally-gnome:stable
I like the feel of how steamos looks and thanks
That would have sucked to have to redo it
yeah
benefit of image based systems you can replace the base image 😄
Don't
Only diff is asusctl
Or if you did that's ok
Isn't there different commands though
I just know where all the like mod folders are in that database cuz I used to own a steam deck
Unless you care about fan curves no
I have a hard time finding a hidden files in it
I'm mod my Sims 4 and I have no idea how to navigate gnome
That's what I worry about fan curves the rog likes to run hot for some dumb stupid reason
Unless I can run gnome and you guys have a suggestion for like a plug-in for fan curves that would be awesome
There's ROG something installed on the ally image
Oh really? Even if your running gnome?
So I can change to gnome with no issues for the rog?
we do not recommend going from 1 DE to another DE
it tend to break things in a way its better to make a new user on the device
That's what I was thinking of doing I just don't know much about gnome
That's why I just went with the default for Ally because I'm familiar with the steam OS and it looks just like it on desktop.
theres a gnome image for the ally
if you installed a kde based image (default for bazzite), you can swap to any other kde based image no issues
Does anyone have a picture of what the gnome one looks like?
like gnome with the bazzite logo
Bazzite - The next generation of Linux Gaming
Bazzite is a custom image built on Fedora Atomic technology that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices (yep, even your favorite handheld). Featuring a rock-solid base with automatic updates and ninety days of rollbacks.
GitHub
GitHub - ublue-os/bazzite: Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as a...
Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as an alternative operating system for the Steam Deck, and a ready-to-game SteamOS-like for desktop computers, living room home theater PCs, and numerous other h...
It looks kinda neat I'm just worried it will be harder to navigate with my rogs button's is that possible for searching the desktop mode.
And can I still use desktop images to load or does it have to be done via commands to upload things?
stick with kde then if thats what you are comfortable with.
if you have a pc you can always try out the bazzite-gnome image on a virtual machine
however we do not recommend switching from kde to gnome or gnome to kde as it will cause odd issues with different things. my recommendation is if you are switching DE make a new user (on desktop images) to login as on the new DE or reinstall (handheld images) to avoid incompatibilities and weird issues
in a VM you use desktop images
Oh okay I mean I do have a gaming desktop I have one SSD for Linux and another for Windows
Could I try it there so gaming is easier and the kids can't really mess with anything desktop wise?
yeah you can. we recommend keeping bazzite and windows on separate drives anyway. just keep in mind that manual partitioning is not supported on fedora atomic desktops, which bazzite is based on
Okay perfect just wanna check first since that's how I boot anyways since I don't like the kids messing with my windows because they will break it lol
My 5 year old she doesn't really know better still. She will be like I broke it I'm like nooo lol
i know how that is, i am a sysadmin for a private school, they break stuff on their computers super often
both software and sigh hardware
That would drive me crazy
i was gone for 1 week due to being sick
I got to swap my PC into a different case though If I'm going to use it on the main TV for the kids.
The one it's in right now is way too bulky
i came back to my desk and had 15 broken laptops on it because they either sat on it, dropped it, knocked it off the table, lifted the laptop by the screen 1 handed or slid on the ice and fell. ok fair last one not really their fault but come on
The other ones would have set me off 😂 you got some patience lol
Do people not look where they sit lol
a lot of these kids dont really care about their stuff which is sad.
Yeah it would seem so some of them are overly entitled to
When I'm trying to install this on my pc
No matter what I hit it fails
install fedora silverblue and rebase from that.
our installers are all online installers and they are very tempremental if your network has just a minor hiccup
Okay I'll try that
Do I have any connected to ethernet or can I use Wi-Fi when I'm setting up
I'm wondering if that's why I'm having issues
wifi works as long as the iso has the driver for the wifi card (in which case you can connect to wifi)
that error is 100% network connection
Okay I'll use ethernet then thank you for letting me know
I figured but I wasn't 💯 sure
How do I know if the wifi driver is there? I grabbed the latest iso off the site
if it is not there, you will not have the option in the network portion of the installer to connect to wifi
Oh wait I think I found it.
Anyone have advice on something to control my fan speeds better for my desktop on linux?
I found someone talking about this but I don't know if anyone has experience with something called
tuxclocker
what GPU?
we give the option to install LACT in the Bazzite Portal or with
ujust
terminal command
it allows for fan control
however it only works on AMD (and I think Intel) graphics cards
Nvidia GPUs have GreenWithEnvy for fan control tooI got AMD darling but AMD funs so stinking hot that I need to be able to tweak my fans.
you can use LACT to make a fan curve
whats the command for that?
ujust install-lact
I read through a few that I need to get the rog working but I am not sure how to use all the commands still. I'll try it out thank you nickname your a Gem!
Not gonna lie I am linux stupid I've been a windows users for years lol
Do I control it through game mode or in desktop?
you can add it to game mode... if this is for the ROG Ally then i guess i should recommend the Fantastic Decky plugin
this is more of a desktop utility
Yeah one is for my desktop when I am running my linux and I need one for ROG ally.
yeah use a decky plugin for game mode on the ally for fan control and LACT on your desktop
just be careful with this stuff
use it at your own risk
don't damge the hardware and what not. LACT also allows you to overclock the GPU
yup
Yeah I don't wanna overclock
it overclocks itself because its an oc edition
and I am trying to push the clock back down.
while adjusting fan control.
Can I lower the clock on it with LACT? Because it keeps ramping itself to max and I don't need it that stinking high.
Like when I open after burner on PC it's way too high I have to clock it all the way back down and save it because it's way too high and it will overheat my gpu.
heres the clock settings
oh nice I can control how much or little it uses.
more info here
GitHub
GitHub - ilya-zlobintsev/LACT: Linux AMDGPU Controller
Linux AMDGPU Controller. Contribute to ilya-zlobintsev/LACT development by creating an account on GitHub.
I needed this your a life saver!
I was scared my PC GPU was gonna over heat again because it keeps doing this crap.
I had to clock it down to this on PC.
Because it was all the way in the middle before I reinstalled it after redoing my windows.
Is there anything I can do to control my AIO pump cooling while on linux? On windows I have it on extreme.
what AIO pump do you have
it's a corsair one.
there's no GUI
https://github.com/liquidctl/liquidctl
there's this command line one that may have support for yours
GitHub
GitHub - liquidctl/liquidctl: Cross-platform CLI and Python drivers...
Cross-platform CLI and Python drivers for AIO liquid coolers and other devices - liquidctl/liquidctl
if you want to try it
I'll try it
rpm-ostree install liquidctl
rebootThank you
and it should be there
np
Sorry for all the questions
you're good dont feel bad
thats why this is here
I'm grateful.
I am so lost on how to get this to work
I did the fedora install do I have to reboot?
Yup
Okay I did is there somewhere specific I have to go after that
it's cli
Ohh
yea i couldn't find a GUI
It's confusing me it says it's installed I restarted my PC and I see nothing under apps
I typed in to make sure it installed and it said package/capability 'liquidctl' is already requested.
I'm going to load up IQ on Windows and see exactly what the name of my CPU cooler is found out it's a H170I elite capellix
that might not be supported 😔
I never used this software so im not sure how to really use it outside of what i read on the github readme
it is a cli, meaning it will not be under apps
it has to be run in the terminal
thats what cli means
Ohhh
How to I use it in terminal?
sorry wasn't familiar with the term cli.
I'm attempting to get pipe wire working also so I can stream on linux
you open the terminal and run the command for it
which might be liquidctl or something
read the project documentation if any
I think I figured that one out now
I am just trying to get this pipewire crap to work now.
what issues you got with pipewire?
Its download but when I put in the command I had to do in order to reboot its not working at all I feel like I missed something
pipewire is there by default so no idea what youre talking about?
Not sure they had this feature before where you could like separate your audio.
I cannot find it anywhere in there.
ujust virtual-audio-channels
it will configure channels for browser, game, voice and musicOkay I am a moron :KannaFacePalm:
but you will have to use pavucontrol (from software center) to configure applications to use the different channels
it says it does not contain recipe
so I am assuming I gotta download it first?
no its me who gave you the wrong command 🤦
I found it
I typed ujust in
ujust setup-virtual-channels
gave a list of commands
there is an issue with it atm though
so you will have to manually edit the file it made to fix it
I take it you know the issue?
there is a fix in the pipeline but it will take some time before its merged into bazzite since its included in a big cleanup
yep
i am the one who wrote the command 😄
Your a genius
a recent audio update on the deck images added a filter channel which messes up the defaults
It's a miracle when I figure out anything linux related 🤣
for desktop image, the ujust command works fine
if you plan to use it on the ally you will need a slightly modified one
I am using desktop so I should fine than right?
oh yeah desktop one will work fine
I have to say you have an impressive brain.
I can't tell left from right when linux coding comes into play nor commands lol
the deck image recently had an update that is deck image specific in regards to audio and added these 2 outputs
and it made the defaults for the audio channels config go wonky on the deck image 🤣
so yeah, does not affect the desktop image at all
Thank gosh because I feel terrible for bothering you guys so much
I feel like the dumbest person in here lol
its ok its why we are here
i would recommend you to get pulseaudio volume control from the software center though
makes it easy to quickly make games and programs play audio on the right channel
for most applications once you have set the output in pulseaudio volume control, it will remember it the next time
so you dont have to set it up constantly
No idea how to do that is it in ujust?
software center
Should I google it?
software center is also known as discover on kde
I am running gnome on my desktop
software center should still be there i believe just search for it in the overview
Okay I will check
but it is not discover software center
just search for
software
found it what now? it opened a app.
search for
pulseaudio volume control
found it.
I installed it.
Is there anything specific I need to do in here.
you can tell applications to play audio through different channels with this
what I see
playback tab
okay I see system sounds.
at the bottom
change to all
all streams?
yep
okay done
do you see the other audio channels there?
nope
but I don't have obs open right now either or anything else.
you didnt restart pipewire
I have no idea how
I followed the command to install it after that I got lost lol
systemctl --user restart pipewire.service
they say restart pipewire or reboot 😛I feel dumb
because the other command they had in there wasn't working so I thought I did it wrong lol
just restart my pc again?
after that command
no just run the command i gave you
okay
you either restart or run that command
I did the command
check pulseaudio volume control again
okay I see more now
then its set up
keep in mind that applications will not automatically use those channels
System sounds, game output, voice output on, browser output on and music output on
do I have to run that other command every time?
you can use pulseaudio audio control to tell applications (that have no way to select audio output) to use the right channel
no
the command is only the first time hence the or reboot
ah okay
so you said it won't automatically do that so do I just redo the previous stuff to get it to show again?
clicking all streams and etc?
no
i am saying
application X need to be told to use channel Y
Ohh okay
so any time I open something I have to tell it
go here and there.
in most cases you need to only do it once
That would be nice 😄
however some programs like firefox opens a new audio stream for each audio that is played
meaning you have to change it each time
so for game output would it say just game I select or will it have other options?
ideally set the audio output/speaker to "game" inside the game
if not set it to pulseaudio in the game
if the game does not support changing the audio output, use pulseaudio volume control
ahh okay
now how does obs filter this stuff?
Do I need to add a certain plugin in there or?
nope just add pipewire audio source
also for simplicity
since we know the channels are there now
okay give me a second I am gonna try and do this so I don't have to do it again lol
do each channel use your default speaker/headset? (on deck image it has to be virtual sink)
headset
ok good
I find headset easier
yeah im just asking to make sure its configured right since i maintain this stuff XD if the desktop image had the config broken too i would need to write a fix
set it to only show applications now
to make things easier for you
okay
now I just see only system sounds
you said pipewire audio? this is all I see
youre supposed to only see system sounds
any application playing audio will show up
pulseaudio will also work
im guessing youre using flatpak version
we can use the other verison?
bazzite has a special obs version that is installable
Okay I didn't know that.
🤣
pipewire is pulseaudio compatible
drop in replacement
I rather use the bazzite one.
it comes with lots of useful plugins
ujust install-obs-studio-portable
might be overkillit said are you sure you want to do this 🤣
I am okay with that.
works much better out of the box
Okay I really like this!
But something about a websocket came up
No idea what the hell to do with that lol
websocket is the thing that lets you control obs through websites and such
its used by plugins
and web plugins
so its useful to have? Do I just make up a password for it?
thats up to you
if youre on a shared network i highly recommend a password since it lets you remotely control obs
Yeah that might be a good idea.
not gonna lie I am blown away by Bazzite.
but its used for things like betterpoints and such
When I first tired it I had no idea what I was doing so I didn't like it but my second time I am in awe.
where you can hook up automatic scene switching and effects upon channel point redemption and bits and such
That's cool as hell
you guys are a bunch of geniuses
its wimpy that made obs-studio-portable as he livestreams and was tired of setting up his obs all the time whenever he reinstalled his system
I still have to say you are all genius
I am the worst at plugins
Like don't leave me to do any of it lol
95% of the time I break something lol
This is very convent for people who aren't very linux savy.
Quick question is there a way to get gamemode to work on the desktop if I so wish?
you would have to rebase to the image that has Game Mode
in Prompt
wait for it to rebase (takes a while)
when it says to reboot your system
reboot
now you have game mode
thank you
if you want the "gamemode" ui on desktop it is just big picture mode. but you will not have any of the gamemode benefits
just the steamui
they have an AMD GPU and use GNOME
yeah
so rebasing gives them the advantages
to force desktop mode on startup
btw:
https://universal-blue.discourse.group/docs?topic=561
more docs if you need more info on anything
Universal Blue
Bazzite Documentation
[Bazzite_Documentation] General FAQ Gaming Guide Contributing to Bazzite Installation Installation Guide Installation Troubleshoot Guide Dual Boot Guide Software Installing and Managing Applications Waydroid Guide Updates, Rollbacks, & Rebasing Image Specific Information on Steam Deck, HTPC, and Handheld-PC Images (Bazzite w/ Game Mode) ...
i figured i would mention the difference in case they were planning to use obs and record the whole gamemode ui and such 😅 and just wanted the gamepadui
bookmarked it
oh right... true
yeah
Yeah I am using obs
Steam's Big Picture Mode is the same UI
but functionality is limited
no FSR scaling slider in the quick access menu
for one thing
So i wasn't sure which one would be more of a better choice.
and you will not be able to use all of obs inside gamemode if that was your plan
gamemode is essentially "console mode"
No I knew that
oh ok
just making sure 😄
I just wanted it so that when I just wanna play in peace
I can go into gamemode
for like the kiddos
we get some people who expect multimonitor support and all kinds of things in gamemode
yeah most limitations of it are from valve
it's intended soley for the deck
so when you use it outside of that
issues occur
bazzite tries to workaround a lot of things
I wanted gamemode since when it boots up the kids are in gamemode and messing with my desktop outside of it 🤣
yeah rebase to the deck image then 🙂
yeah you could rebase to the
-deck
image and type that ujust
command so it autostarts in desktop modethank you Hikari ❤️
Sorry guys this is going to take me a bit to get the hang of it's super different from steam os lol
np
so use the reimage you gave me above?
anyways im off to bed, tough being european in this community, most people are in the "wrong" timezones 🤣
yup that's for GNOME and for AMD GPUs + offers Game Mode
night @HikariKnight
okay night
I can still stream whenever i got in desktop mode though right?
after the rebase downloads and does all that
yup
okay thank gosh ❤️
I love you guys ❤️
do I type ujust in front of
in Prompt
basically rebase command --> wait for it to finish (it will take a long time) --> reboot --> setup bazzite portal if it asks again --> type that
ujust
command so it doesn't boot your PC into game modeI think I broke it
its not doing anything
theres no indicator
it's working
it says old and new refs are equal
huh
type
yeah
whats the output of that
oh you're already on that lol
so how the heck do I use it?
reboot
I'm dumb I swear to everything 🤣
Does that mean I have to reinstall everything I had before?
No I don't gotta thank gosh!
no
That is very useful.
nick sorry to ask something again but I vtube do you know if there are any plugins for me to do so?
or am I able to use proton to use my usual software from steam?
i dont know...
like idk what plugins for OBS would work
guess I'll give it a try and do some research.
I meant for outside of that.
virtual puppet project is a thing in GNOME Software
but idk if it integrates with OBS
or how it works
what it is
oh okay I will check it out do I have to find the github?
open Software
oh snap i got stray to load yay ❤️
open this
type vtube
thats what came up for me
Okay that's cool!
I got my vtube studio to work never mind :happy:
thank you proton.
Is there a way to use a touch screen keyboard on the rog ally on desktop mode?
guide+x (guide+square on ps controllers) usually on any controller
Not sure what the guide would be sorry new to this I know where the square button is though lol I'm familiar with start and select that's it other than the other basic things on the controller.
guide = vendor button
ps, xbox, steam, etc
Oh okay.
I'll look at my rog ally and see which one it is I keep forgetting.
should be the one that opens the left menu in gamemode
oh okay I'll try it in a minute thanks Hikari.
np, i dont own the ally is if hhd has mapped up something else to be the keyboard, at least guide+x us the official steam way to open the keyboard
Yeah I installed hhd on it so I am thinking it should be.
@HikariKnight you were right I really like gnome but I was worried it wouldn't work well on the ally.
Is there a way I can use a virtual machine to setup windows 11 just so I can use my photoshop because I don't know how to get it to work on linux.
I have no idea how to even install rpm files.
On the obs portable version I was given I can't seem to find the settings I am suppose to enable in order for my game capture to work I am pretty sure I am missing something but I am not sure what. I cannot change my encoder settings from x264 because its not finding anywhere else to pull from.
dont think it has ffmpeg vaapi available, but that one tend to be a bit unstable
currently virtualization is only available on the desktop image
ujust enable-virtualization
it will change to ujust setup-virtualization
in the futurethanks
I am in desktop mode
I just didn't know how to get it to work lol
virt-manager is probably overkill for you but keep in mind that you will not have proper hardware acceleration in windows
Yeah I just want to use my photoshop I pay for that's all I care about lol
yeah i havent used photoshop since CS3
I have the newest one
but it's not linux friendly lol
yeah i know
idk how much it wants hardware acceleration these days
hence the heads up
I really wish they would have made a linux version.
it might be a bit slower than what you would want
thats okay
my ex used to use photoshop and then over time decided to learn krita and other tools so that if she ever decided to ditch adobe, she could do it a lot easier 😄
Hikari would you be able to walk me through fixing something?
I am using the portable obs but I can't get it to use certain encoder settings because it's not picking it up and I am not sure what I am doing wrong so it won't let me capture my game in desktop mode.
i got a few mins free so i can try
dont think the obs-studio-portable has access to ffmpeg-vaapi
the gamecapture function uses an environment variable as a launch option for games if that is the game capture you are talking about
add this to the games launch options (in steam)
OBS_VKCAPTURE=1 %command%
for other launchers (like heroic and lutris) do what would be the equivalent to adding an environment variable and just supply OBS_VKCAPTURE=1
okay I will give it a try I feel so dumb asking for so much help I try and google but not sure what to put where half the time lol
Once I get the hang of it I'm good.
because youre talking about this one right?
as that one just needs a game to be launched with the environment variable i mentioned 🙂
window capture should still work as usual if you dont want to think about the variable, but you will get a prompt asking for access to record windows/screen each time you start obs instead (if you are on wayland)
so where do I type the OBS_VKCAPTURE=1 %command%
rightclick game in steam --> properties
Oh okay that's what I needed to know thanks
That's actually really cool!
keep in mind it does not work on all games, they have to use vulkan or dxvk to work with this, and some games dont like you recording them using this (anticheat)
those you will have to use window capture for
Okay will do thank you ❤️
I got windows 11 working on my VM
Just finishing up the last of the setup process this is nice though since I don't want to have to switch into windows every time I wanna use photoshop lol