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Would integrate with all of the card networks through their respective APIs, spread expenditure across cards automatically, target specific cards for specific purchase types, smart locking & automatic card balance handling
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William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
Good thread It truly was. We'd also deal directly with the card manufacturers, and were actively attempting to develop our own card specifications Most Americans have a dozen or so cards, all with different benefits, payment plans, etc. This assumption is correct
kian
kian12mo ago
sad european noises
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
Sadge
kian
kian12mo ago
their interchange fees are 8x-10x higher than the EU cap they can offer much better points multipliers, signup bonuses, etc just compare AMEX's US offerings to, i.e the UK
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
Just the nature of spending in the US, where having a large number of cards to cover costs is encouraged at every level, from advertisement to banking
kian
kian12mo ago
lots of the rewards cards are made to be paid off in full or offer instalment plans at 0% apr if you don't then sure, you'll get bonked with 25-30%+ apr
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
It does, which is why our platform came into fruition. Attempting to mitigate debt by helping people utilize cards that best meet their needs, set goals and limits, etc. and not need to handle 12 or so physical cards to prevent issues with individual or total compromises
Cyb3r-Jak3
Cyb3r-Jak312mo ago
It’s weird because I know people who took out like 2 credit cards before applying for a loan because their credit amount shoot up like 10k. They never even touched the cards
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
This Same experience here - I don't personally own a credit card, but having credit history (especially in the US) is very, very important
kian
kian12mo ago
it's very easy to get 12-24 months of 0% APR on stuff like balance transfers or purchases in the UK, even with a low-med credit score
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
You quite literally cannot live comfortably in the US without having extensive credit history
kian
kian12mo ago
i mean that's their target audience, people who will spend but can't pay it off in time
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
They also make money on payment fees, like you said before
kian
kian12mo ago
the UK/EU banned 'card fees' so most platforms moved to charging everyone a 'service fee', card or not plus our interchange rates are capped at like 0.3% whereas the US isn't - i think the avg there is around 2%?
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
It doesn't seem like a lot, 1%, 1.5%, + .30c per transaction, but consider that you're handling $600bn+ annually That's really good I wish it were this way here - too bad lobbying is a legal form of bribery
kian
kian12mo ago
it does make the rewards CC offerings a lot smaller our all-time highest sign-up bonus, when AMEX increased the annual fee on the Plat, is still below the US's normal day to day sign-up bonuses
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
They earn rewards from fees - rewards will never be greater than that. So technically you're being rewarded with your own money anyways Rewards just feel like rewards because it's expected that they will take as much of your money as possible here
kian
kian12mo ago
we have 2 cards that have a partnership with british airways to do upgrade vouchers - pay the avios for Cabin A, get Cabin B - which is the only way it's feasible for the majority of people
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
This is because EMVCo controls the tap to pay and 3D payment processing
kian
kian12mo ago
since most people don't spend enough to have the avios for Cabin B outright
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
These benefits are truly the only ones that make sense - having partnerships with other companies and utilizing specific cards for specific offerings It doesn't technically cost companies more to upgrade you, assuming that you aren't taking up space that another paying customer would utilize, because you never intended to upgrade in the first place. The people who can afford to not care aren't their target audience Unfortunately this will always be the case Gas is variable price commodity, and thus will always be subject to this as the price fluxuates, corporate deals end, etc. etc. Are you from the US? Didn't think so You probably have pretty decent travel insurance offerings Unfortunately here those are all locked behind the 25% APR cards, where people legitimately go into debt from buying gas and groceries
kian
kian12mo ago
Monzo US have a cool feature I wish Monzo UK had, even though Monzo started in the UK With Open Banking, you can have your other cards appear in the Monzo app - i.e American Express. You see the balance, transactions, etc In the US, you can make it so that everytime you spend on your CC it puts money from your bank acc into a dedicated pot Seems to have cool benefits but lots of people are wary of it not being a 'bank bank' in the UK
William Pedersen
William PedersenOP12mo ago
Unsure, never really dealt with them. Considered them for business banking, eventually went elsewhere They are federally insured in the US Unsure, they may have partner banks that they go through Don't really know a whole lot about them
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