Quick question regarding modding...
Is it bannable to make a Valorant mod that changes your UI? I specifically want to make some parts of the UI customizable through a mod like changing font, colours, etc. Would I be banned for this or is it alright to make something like this?
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I wouldn’t do it
Also it’s not allowed
even if it doesn't modify the gameplay in any way?
Yes
I’m guessing vanguard would detect it anyways
how are apps like valorant tracker able to make plugins to show how many kills you got on each round, etc?
would that not be allowed from what you just said?
It doesn’t modify the game
It shows an overlay above the game
mmm
so overlays are fine but modding the files isn't?
Overlays are also questionable but yeah
ok thanks
Those are completely different thing btw
One runs a code alongside one changes the game
i might test with modding the visual files a bit on an alt but i'll try to find a workaround for what i want to do
thank you
Do be careful, cause vanguard might ban you for running something else
does vanguard ip ban or just account ban?
Sometimes account sometimes hwid
Hwid is much harder to bypass then IP bans
i won't be running realtime mod software, just something that modifies the files before the game starts
i'll be careful though
Yeah I’m guessng vanguard would check the integrity of the game files before allowing it to run but
good luck! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thx
the reason overlays arent banned cuz it doesnt interfere with the game client or literally anything there, it just takes api from valorant itself so its very legal (except for some trackers)
i submitted a ticket to riot to ask them just in case
Yeha that’s a good idea
ic...
i mean the stuff that im trying to do is basically like the custom skins in league/valorant. just modify a few visuals that only affect me and do not mess with the gameplay or give me an unfair advantage at all
uhh if your gonna change the actual skins of the guns/characters im pretty sure its illegal
no, just UI elements like tab menu, voice chat icons, etc
uhh ig you could try but vanguard wud block it
i'll just send in a ticket
better to ask the people who know then to guess and be banned
Yeah
do you want to be kept updated with any responses they send back?
@stevethesteve1400 @achtt
Sure
I would love to be updated on the issue
👍
alr
Because they have a contrat with riot, before trzcker was bannable
mmmmm
you will be banned when modifying the games files. it will be for 3rd party software, so the active account will be perma banned and youll get a 4 months hardware id ban
@achtt @stevethesteve1400 the people at support said that modifying the files are against ToS (3.2) and i asked them a few questions like why is KillerSkins com allowed to modify riot ip and not be subject to a lawsuit, and i also asked about any licenses/contracts they can give out to allow modification to game files. i couldn't get those questions answered as they were confidential but they told me to reach out to a discord dev channel. any idea what they meant by that?
you can maybe ask to the support on the server maybe they know
how would i contact them? dms?
@zokona @Modmail
alr thanks
@zokona if they dont know ask in ticket
i asked them these questions in the riot support ticket on the website
yep but ask them what is the discord they talk about
i did but haven't gotten a response yet
oh okay
sent a message through modmail and am now awaiting a response
ok so they said that i need to send in a ticket through riot support for riot related issues....
infinite loop of passing on responsibility
your not allowed to touchy the game files
the game just instantly replaces them i think
also probly ban
@klyphs
Did you say the guy told you to come and ask on discord ?
he talked about a "discord dev channel" but didnt clarify on where to find it
are u dev? no, so where can u find it? no where
....
that is why i am asking about it
to confirm
this discord has nothing to do with riot
sure, there's riot employees
but that's not their job to answer questions here, it's all their free tine
yeah. i sent in a ticket, i was told it isn't affiliated with riot, and am now waiting for a response from my support ticket
then why are u here, the only way is to ask through support ticket, that's the only way
also tracker or whatever doesn't modify the gamefiles
read my messages first please
go to the top and read to get context
I'm sure that won't be allowed tho
in every game that has to met anticheat expectations
@mythea read before talking bro the support ask him to come in the discord but they didnt qay which discord he ask them but they didnt respond yet so he ask here if anyone have a clue
I'm pretty sure support won't ask u to ask in discord...
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This is why he is asking here if anyone have clue, while he is waiting for a real answer
common sense, no
1. ip
2. file integrity (checksum
and 3. security reasons
i will still wait for an answer from the support ticket
@mythea just step out if you dont want to help
didn't they already answer u it's against the tos
the whole thread has no point, the answer is a sure NO
and he already said "support said that modifying game files are against tos 3.2 blah blah"
@mythea read those f*cking line at the end of the text, they said contact discord
they said "against the tos" but didnt specify what part. i asked about 3.2 but they were vague and didnt give a direct answer. 3.2 also talks about licenses/contracts for the creation and non-commercial distribution of modified riot ip
We dont care about that
goodluck finding out lmao
thx
@mythea that why like we are saying 20 minute that he asked here the time they respond but thank gor your help
it's illegal in law, and either in security reasons, no matter what type of files, remember u already accepted the tos not to modify, decompile or whatever the game files
I'm sure that's part of the tos for literally every closed source software
also they may face weakened rights to their ip if they allow someone to do that without proper clarification
3.1 talks about selling Riot Services like their code: "Unless otherwise expressly authorized by us in a signed written contract, you may not sell, copy, exchange, loan, reverse engineer, decompile, derive source code from, translate, lease, grant a security interest in, transfer, publish, assign or otherwise distribute any of the Riot Services or any of Riot Games’ intellectual property, including any of our computer code or Virtual Content."
3.2 talks about modifying Riot Services: "You also agree that unless we grant you a license, in a written contract signed by us, you may never use any of our trademarks, service marks, trade names, logos, domain names, taglines, or trade dress. Any reproduction, redistribution, or modification of the Riot Services, or use of the Riot Services not in accordance with these Terms, is expressly prohibited and may result in severe civil and/or criminal penalties."
this is why i am not only asking about the legal implications of modifying but also asking about how to obtain a license for doing this stuff
im talking about "modify" in a loose term. i am not modifying anything like weapon skins and agents, i am talking about modifying small things that every game has like tab menu, font, soounds, etc.
unless u are part of some business, organization whose professional, or they're going to make changes to them
also what's ur purposes
i want to make the game a bit more customizable for myself, and possibly for others (not a paid service) that does not impede gameplay, violate rules, or give anyone an unfair advantage
sort of like the custom discord clients
it is only client side but lets someone feel more comfortable using a service
custom discord clients are illegal, and discord already stated users can get banned by using them, also they never granted permission to someone else to modify
they just don't care
it could also be a way to help people with visual disabilities like color blindness, low contrast, etc.
riot is very serious in protection to their ip, some apps to let u view ur skins had already got taken down from stores
yeah, it's against ToS of discord but they don't care since it doesn't effect anyone but the person using it. i want to know if Riot has the same mentality or if I would need something like a license and explicit permission from them to attempt this
vshop for example
a tab menu that says a players name and their stats isnt IP
nearly every single game under the same genre as valorant has one
i don't want to modify riot IP, just the ambiguous parts that literally anyone can use for themselves
ugh discord is just a browser, there's little to no harm tho, and it's pointless to take action about them, at worst can bring them decrease in user amount, that's why they don't care
it's not comparable to ips like that
so why would riot care if i change the font of some text?
or change a sound
sounds or voicelines as u noted early are ips
im not creating skins for weapons or agents
font isn't a part of ip if that's not their own font
so yeah, i want to know about modifying files that are not their ip
I don't think they will allow u to do so, even it's not an ip, it's kind of "modifying riot services" and breaks the file integrity
@mythea vshop and app store got banned from app store because they are scam they collect your date/sell your riot account, some are still on app store because they always come back and it take sometime to ban them
no? the vshop owner received a mail about that
also vshop is safe, rated by the community, and I remember vshop was open source
@mythea yes they did, if not they go ask to those people who lost all there account
on github, however it seems that it had been taken down
Open ? 4.6 yeah cool but did you even look at the comment ? Last 4 month on the app there is a ton of bot boosting note and there was 50% where they said got hack, also the problem is already know by everyone
huh, vshop discontinued months ago
because of the ip claim from riot
If you want then
Your right bye have a nice night
ah wait yeah, it's still there
just different account from the website fontend ones
@OsWaynZz @mythea just got a response and an invite to a 3rd party modding discord which is the dev channel they were talking about!
u are good then
🤔 y is it 3rd party though?
Woh can I get an invite too
@achtt 3rd party many some much thing so yeah it is but not the bad 3rd party
@zokona cool for you then, but im curious what does they speak about on the server ?
they mainly talk about modding for games from riot and discuss api, problems, ideas, etc
not run by riot employees but at least they know more than the support ticket
it says that unless you are interested in developing apps/mods for riot's games, then you should join the server. here is the invite if it does interest you tho: https://discord. com/invite/ riotgamesdevrel
remove spaces obv since i cant send links
Thanks