InfOE•12mo ago

OE J2+ with public trust clearance?

Hi, I am currently OE, can I hide my jobs to land another job that requires me to have a public trust clearance?

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You have to list truthfully all of your concurrent jobs when you fill out the SF-85. This will disclosure your status as overemployed, and depending on who reviews the form, could be a non-starter for you. You also should not lie on the form as that can land you in legal waters with the government....

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metropolitan-bronze•12mo ago

dependent-tan•12mo ago

I believe that the J requiring public clearance won't ever see what my Js are but only the person reviewing me for clearance. Is that right?

eastern-cyan•12mo ago

Yeah the adjudicator will see it

equal-aqua•12mo ago

Investigators verify information, they do not disclose it. And your employer/ potential employer will not know the details if you are denied the clearance. Check out this site and pose your question as well: https://discuss.clearancejobsblog.com/

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metropolitan-bronzeOP•11mo ago

Another data point:

genetic-orange•10mo ago

Does the adjudicator work for the employer or gov, and will he/she disclose to HR?

eastern-cyan•10mo ago

The adjudicator works for the GOV and the person who does the interview is a contractor that records it

genetic-orange•10mo ago

Gotcha, so in other words, no one at the employer should see the deets of the clearance app?

foreign-sapphire•10mo ago

Not guaranteed. The FSO for the company you are getting a clearance for (eg Lockheed for UFOs 🛸) may have access to your form and can review it for mistakes to reduce the number of times it’s rejected from the DoD. It’s normal process for the company you’re interviewing for to review your forms and submit it on your behalf

foreign-sapphire•10mo ago

@rotating-chained-monkeys-20

foreign-sapphire•10mo ago

@Mero

eastern-cyan•10mo ago

Oh shit damn im gonna have to be super careful I think I might just tell them honestly bgc being done this month

genetic-orange•10mo ago

Thanks for the info. I guess the only way to make sure you’re good is to get J1 clearance with which the consequences of the FSO reviewing the info doesn’t really matter (for other jobs since you wouldn’t be OE yet) and then get commercial J2/3/etc. afterwards

extended-salmon•10mo ago

A job I intereviewed for required public clearance. The job was very, very, welcoming to university side-gigs and other jobs that increase their image. They were pretty against overemployed by doing the same job for someone else unless it was a non-profit or something they can use for positive spins

metropolitan-bronzeOP•9mo ago

Some other accounts:

Never affected me. Be honest on SF86 but you don't have to tell employers all your business. What you put on the SF86 I don't think is generally shared with the employer. It stays within the FSO space as far as I can tell.

Just be honest on sf86 and if asked about it just say you're doing side work. They won't inquire about the hours. They won't let j1 know about it since this process is dod and not specific to the contractor. Most FSOs have multiple jobs

The whole point of the SF86 is to determine if they can trust you. Always be honest with investigators and you'll be good. For example, they don't care if you say you did drugs in college even. As long as you disclosed to them that you stopped doing drugs before you started your investigation and it was documented then that's cool. However, if they found out after the fact that you lied about doing drugs, they will remove your clearance. Seen it happen a lot of times.

The FSO only sees JPAS, which only shows them the results of your SF86 investigation. Your investigation is handled by a different organization.

metropolitan-bronzeOP•3mo ago

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OE J2+ with public trust clearance?