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VALORANTโ€ข13mo ago
bepzo

why i lose so much?

I get team mvp or match mvp on a loss and i lose like 25-30, why?!
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fecker
feckerโ€ข13mo ago
because the game thinks you're shit based on multiple factors more shit = more rr lost
felix
felixโ€ข13mo ago
So when you lost to people of a lower level to you, for example even if u were match mvp, if you were match mvp and lost to say irons then u would lose a LOT of rr and if u were MVP but lost to say silvers, you would lose a lot less
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข13mo ago
Fact
JSN
JSNโ€ข13mo ago
How are you match mvp with 12/15. I think your lobby might be terrible and that's why you lose so much.
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข13mo ago
Just noticed that lmao Yeah ur not that much higher then avg player in ur lobby then just slightly better and prob also playing against people under ur rank
JSN
JSNโ€ข13mo ago
I'd like a screenshot of that games scoreboard lol
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข13mo ago
Same
Grynn
Grynnโ€ข13mo ago
bro ur 12-15 ur the reason the team lost ur actually that one guy everyone hates in the lobby the bottom fragging reyna no comms i want to choke u valCatBigStare
felix
felixโ€ข13mo ago
yea lol 12/15 is not good no matter how many match mvp's you get lmao
rice enjoyer
rice enjoyerโ€ข13mo ago
bro how is it possible to match mvp with 12-15 did the whole enemy team mollythemselves or what
felix
felixโ€ข12mo ago
fr
fecker
feckerโ€ข12mo ago
yet they still won ๐Ÿ’€
Aizu
Aizuโ€ข12mo ago
^^
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
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felix
felixโ€ข12mo ago
yea ur whole team just like didnt click... and the other team just farmed you guys lmao The reason u lost rr is cuz even tracker.gg gave u a TRS of 392
raiden
raidenโ€ข12mo ago
how is he bottom fragging when he is match mvp are u dumb or stupid ๐Ÿ˜ญ if he match mvp'd at that kda then its probably him and his teammates
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
then why i lose 28 rr for this if enemy team has higher avg rank
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JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
Not by much Whats the map score
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
what does that mean?
JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
13-5? Like how many rounds each team got
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
13-8
JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
Yeah 28 seems like a lot
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
ye
JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
The game hates you ig
felix
felixโ€ข12mo ago
they are practically the same rank
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
ya but why did i lose 28 for getting team mvp and -23 for getting match mvp
rice enjoyer
rice enjoyerโ€ข12mo ago
its jsut valorant mmr in a nutshell
felix
felixโ€ข12mo ago
It's not a perfect aystem 1 tipis to just not filo I know people go like pls fill Skye orhataever But if you want the rr, you gotta get kills and overall being a duelist or whatever he comfortable with willso that. If the team gets the win it doesn't matter what agent yk
Grynn
Grynnโ€ข12mo ago
but still the 13k
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
@imfeylix why
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
@JSN
JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
13-11
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
ya but i only got 14
JSN
JSNโ€ข12mo ago
because 13-11
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
but i got match mvp?
felix
felixโ€ข12mo ago
You were versing people with a low MMR or RR and u didnt win by a lot e.g if everyone u were up against were bronze 1, then that would explain it
YourTherapist
YourTherapistโ€ข12mo ago
Did you hit your head when you were a kid or are you naturally stupid
Grynn
Grynnโ€ข12mo ago
๐Ÿค“ ๐Ÿคก people make mistakes i didnt see the match mvp i sent that like 6 days ago
YourTherapist
YourTherapistโ€ข12mo ago
you see the 12/15 but now the match mvp beside it??
Grynn
Grynnโ€ข12mo ago
bro its not that deep dont get ur feelings in if u have anger issues i suggest u go get a therapist
YourTherapist
YourTherapistโ€ข12mo ago
๐Ÿคก ๐Ÿ’€ this guy bro
Green
Greenโ€ข12mo ago
To be fair, your kda is still negative for both games
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
sadly ): the struggle out of bronze has been crazy
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
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Green
Greenโ€ข12mo ago
Maybe just try sticking to one or two duelists instead of three for better consistency. Whichever one you're more comfortable with
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
i only play reyna and when reyna gets stolen i play raze that neon game was a 1v1
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
play with a friend or 2
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
bronze 1 now!!! yay
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
friends quit val a while ago bro
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
find someone from lfg
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
ik im bronze and i shouldnt be saying this but my teamates are fucking ass did that once. my team was shit
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
ur account is cursed make a new one lmao
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
lmao
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
im fr i was js like u then i got to plat on the other account
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
lol but its deadass anoying when ur teamate goes 3 in 17
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
struggle is so real
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Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
what are the ranks like smurfs or what the other team
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
uh mostly bronze sometimes silver and iron my teamates are "bronze"
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
trust me play on like an alt or smth
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
i spent to much money on this shit bro
Soup
Soupโ€ข12mo ago
damn the mvps tho
water.
water.โ€ข12mo ago
Not really his rank is just higher than his mmr so thats why
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
it is what it is
BeiRay
BeiRayโ€ข12mo ago
0-13 2-13
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข12mo ago
Bcuz they are prob a lower rank then u or on avg worst
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
Nah ive checked the games
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข12mo ago
Hmm maybe game avg was high
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
Team average rank is usually bronze 2 for the other team and occasionally it would be b1 or b3 Same goes for my team Wdym by that?
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข12mo ago
Like avg player did really good so u didnโ€™t stand out So multiple players did really well
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
ah Even with match mvp?
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข12mo ago
Yeah For exmaple if like 3 enemies had 20+ kills as an example ud still not be seen as that much better then avg
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
oh ok
Dondolfijn
Dondolfijnโ€ข12mo ago
It be like 3 extra points bcuz the best then
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข12mo ago
nah i dont get extra points Ok but thanks for telling me
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
okay wow
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Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
Idk for sure but I read from somewhere that riot will give/take less/more according to what rank it thinks you should be at- so like if it thinks you should only be bronze 3 and youโ€™re really close to b3 itโ€™ll give less Like itโ€™s really randommm idkkk ๐Ÿ˜ญ Iโ€™m iron 2 and I played a comp match today with someone Iron 3 and we drawed but I got +10rr anyways and he got 0 (he had 22 kills and I had like 18 for context) so like I believe the game wants me iron 3 at least itโ€™s like tryna boost or smth
Grynn
Grynnโ€ข10mo ago
pretty sure its something to do with mmr like if your mmr is high the game thinks you belong in gold it puts you with gold and you get more rr but if its low the game puts you with irons you make less rr
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
because you got more deaths than kills, mvp isn't everything, you could have less deaths & less kills and lose way less than 25-30 RRรง your MMR is also important, you should be having your mmr good to win lots of RR & lose less RR
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
This season i have like a 1.47 kd and 55% winrate is that good
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
Yeaaah thatโ€™s what I meant essentially thanks for elaborating
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
1.4kd is decent, good for bronze of overall
BeiRay
BeiRayโ€ข10mo ago
Basically your MMR is trash bad opponents = low rr gain big rr lose.
sb30
sb30โ€ข10mo ago
also you might be duo queueing with people of a lower rank
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
How to get better mmr?
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
by destroying your lobby for many game
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
ill show you my games i played yesterday
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
2 game will not make your mmr go up that much you atleast need to destroy 10 lobby to be to an average mmr again
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
Imma check the last time i went negative in a game 15 games ago
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
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OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
destroy lobby mean going 13/2 you dont only need kill, you need good acs, fast win etc @bepzo and you should work your crosshair it look bad
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
Average acs for the day was 342 and 313
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
you dont do it in one day brother
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
Im showing u my previous games
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
idc ๐Ÿ˜… its like that showing your stats will not change anything
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
Mb i thought i was gonna become diamond by showing you this
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
Is there anyway to โ€œdestroy a lobbyโ€ as Sage? ๐Ÿฅฒ I main her for the most part and I really just help my duo destroy the lobby so <:Iso_Sip:1165484868570980452> getting kills is pretty hard when Iโ€™m tryna stay safe and heal my teammates, can I still do good according to valorant without having 20+ kills?
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
working your mechanic, learn grim wall, and your not a pocket sage or an healer
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
One match I was healing the crap out of this guy and he was getting compliments left and right for getting kills ๐Ÿ’€ meanwhile nearly every fight he got into left him at 1hp and I had to heal him So many rounds we wouldnโ€™t have won if I didnโ€™t heal/res the duelists Then I donโ€™t get any credit
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
yeah even if i was a main sage i would not play her again to much toxicity and not aggressive enough, skye is far better
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
๐Ÿ˜ž yeah I get like pestered to heal ppl a bunch of ppl donโ€™t wanna use their big boy words and they just spam shoot me and Iโ€™m supposed to get the hint? Like the first time someone did it to me I didnโ€™t understand thatโ€™s what they wanted then they call me useless ๐Ÿ’€ But I play her because I can turn the tides with my res and res my duo or just like stopping pushes is easier with her orb
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
yeah but too many toxic and playing like that resume to help your team and if you die first you are "piece of shit" like they say, so you cant work mechanic and you only are an "healer" when your not
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
Yeah true, I like Skye too, but being able to heal yourself has come in handy for me sometimes- also since Iโ€™m Iron when I play Skye no one even lets me initiate ๐Ÿ’€ Iโ€™ll try and flash or dog (Iโ€™ll tell them Iโ€™m flashing too) but they just push and get killed without me having time to relay info I guess I just gotta get out of iron so Iโ€™ll just worry about myself first lmao I just donโ€™t wanna flash ppl catWhatConfused
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
you just play skye for yourself who care its low elo
Eros
Erosโ€ข10mo ago
True With the new update I gotta learn when to use the flash tho I may do like one entry and save another for if itโ€™s a 1v1 or smth
OsWaynZz
OsWaynZzโ€ข10mo ago
if you want you can just go with another agent gekko is good until diams, kayo is good in every elo and even more with the nerf of skye
My cat is orange
My cat is orangeโ€ข10mo ago
2 words Skill issue
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
Frrrr
sb30
sb30โ€ข10mo ago
focus on your mechanics so that no matter what agent your playing you can still hard carry. obviously some agents make carrying easier but you should be good enough to carry every game if you want to rank up fast
finix
finixโ€ข10mo ago
eat rice
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
You cant blame it on your teamates My teamates:
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fecker
feckerโ€ข10mo ago
L
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
u gotta be good enough to carry games
sb30
sb30โ€ข10mo ago
im sorry but 9/15 lmfao im not dissing i do worse but you shouldve cropped it if u was gonna say "carry" ๐Ÿ˜ญ good shit tho i could never ๐Ÿ˜”
suj
sujโ€ข10mo ago
the duality <:val_KekwSob:914192985166610433>
sb30
sb30โ€ข10mo ago
lmaooo
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
our k/d ratio is really simular you have a 1.38 and I have a 1.45 but you are diamond i am bronze ๐Ÿคฃ
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
is it?! most diamonds I fight against have less than 1.00 kd
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
kind of mines only like 0.07 more then you
globgogagalab
globgogagalabโ€ข10mo ago
bad mmr
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
damn
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
I get boosted iron 1s on my team gl bro im bouta hit silver
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
damn what what ur kd that season?
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
oh danh
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
rip
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
same
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
yesterday i was playing bad so i just hopped off for the day
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
I feel u my goal is to get to silver 2 by the end of the season
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
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๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
I got a salary rise, which means buying skins ๐Ÿ˜Ž
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
w any tips to get out of bronze tho?
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
yeah don't go for kills play with head aas your teammates won't ๐Ÿ‘
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
WE BACK IN SILVEr
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
WOOOOOH
Serotonin
Serotoninโ€ข10mo ago
It's quite simple. You don't belong in the rank you think well too be fair you deserve a bit higher high change you also flame your team after round 1
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
other way around
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
this game i playe like an houra go our sage was 1/3 and i was 0/2 and he was saying shit like "omg our duelist suck you have 0 kills" shit like that
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
on round 3 I think i deserve silver 2
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
the thing is that im a instalock reyna lol
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
everyone hates me
Serotonin
Serotoninโ€ข10mo ago
Best bet is playing on an alt
globgogagalab
globgogagalabโ€ข10mo ago
u deserve immortal
Serotonin
Serotoninโ€ข10mo ago
crazy take ngl
globgogagalab
globgogagalabโ€ข10mo ago
no he deservers it dont u see his team holds him back
iGNEEL
iGNEELโ€ข10mo ago
Just make an alt bro, when i lose a game with 1 kd on jett i lose like -7 because of performance bonus idk how. I am also bronze 2. And i get like +13 when i played cypher with like 17/17 kills (7th rank on the scoreboard)
McApple
McAppleโ€ข10mo ago
Skill issue (jk ur get MMR so ull be in high elo even though ur rank is low)
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
thank you ikr if i had normal teamates who knows how high i could go not even immortal prob radiant
globgogagalab
globgogagalabโ€ข10mo ago
true
mob
mobโ€ข10mo ago
Given that they lost 2-13 i guess its reasonable specially at bronze
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
1 hour just to get +6 rr
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bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
): ay but we are close to hitting a 1.5kd so ill take it
Serotonin
Serotoninโ€ข10mo ago
@bepzo Make a support ticket and ask them to reset your accounts stats
zaay
zaayโ€ข10mo ago
just get better
fecker
feckerโ€ข10mo ago
Ong bro, you fs deserve radiant, your bronze teammates are holding you back
bepzo
bepzoOPโ€ข10mo ago
I know
fecker
feckerโ€ข10mo ago
I honestly think someone should boost you to radiant ๐Ÿ™
๐“›๐“พ๐“ถ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐” โ™›
in bronze, you could easily carry yourself out if you good enough, you don't need teammates I rather lose in bronze than in ascendant
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