Postman Oxfords - thoughts?
I've been really considering a pair as of late. I walk a lot but want to get some nicer shoes to wear casually as I walk around campus since I'm kind of shifting away from my black jeans and band shirts style of summer into a more dark acadamic sort of vibe with some nice coats and wool pants - heavily considering these since they match well with dark colors for me.
Thoughts? I'd imagine they'd pair well with the lulu pants I just bought
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Personally not a huge fan of that sole on a derby, I’d prefer a lug sole, but that’s just preference :- )
They're cool
Mono docs are another option
If this is the kind of shoe you are after, Moto makes the absolute best model. Incredible craftsmanship, perfect ratio, ages like fine wine...
could you send a link? did some googling and couldn’t find anything
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They are sold out at the moment, but usually restock at the beginning of the month.
They have several other colors
Here are mine in brown
The ones in your image are the Red Wings, right? I think at that price point it's a good bang for the price. Those Moto shoes Shrimp linked look amazing though, and similar to those, depending on where you are in the world, it might be easier to get Tricker's Robert derby, which is also available in black cordovan leather.
I had a pair years ago and really hated them
The leather doesnt break in well and the wedge sole is not very comfortable. I wouldnt recommend them
Also... not oxfords
fair
I cannot spend that much money on shoes
🙏
i make 50 cents above minimum wage
OK, sorry. Totally understandable and my bad.
i am just branching out a bit into winter clothes/boots
This is incorrect, actually. One use of the term "oxford" is shoes with closed lacing systems. But the habit of calling this style of derby "oxford" stretches back more than 100 years. So these are correctly also called oxfords.
just got a pair of thursday cavailars but might return them if i dont like them
Link source. Every definition I've ever seen makes a clear distinction between an oxford and derby. Not including keyword-stuffed descriptions on websites and ebay and such. Otherwise it feels like saying that "blazer and sport coat mean the same thing because many people have a habit of using the words interchangeably." Without getting into a debate on the fluidity of language...
Red wing has used the term since the early 1900s. Viberg and Moto are other brands, and there are many others. It has a long history and is not uncommon. Here is a link:
Josh Bornstein
Stitchdown
Why the Hell Do All These Workboot Makers Call Their Derbies “Oxfor...
What’s an oxford when it’s absolutely, definitely not an oxford…but is still, somehow, called an oxford? It’s difficult to fathom how one one of the most common shoe terms became one of the most surprisingly contentious shoe terms. Because we all know what an oxford is, right? Well, just in case, let’s break it down
By the way, lots of "double terms" exist in the world of fashion or even shoes. For example, "cordovan" is a type of leather, but it is also a color of leather dye. Totally unrelated.
Has anyone like actually owned the postmans and yo uknow
walked in them
Yeah
I've had a pair of Red Wing Postman oxfords for like 8 years. One of my most consistently comfortable shoes. Also holds up great in bad weather. Highly recommend.
Haha alright that's fair. It annoys me because I wish they just wouldn't use the "double terms" ... but fuck it, who am I to say.
mhm
considering them strongly as my next pair
the thursdays feel a bit nrarow but im not sure how much i need 2 break them in
i wear thicke rsocks and that solved it
I bought a pair of these a couple of years ago to pair with black jeans
They were really comfortable, well-built, plenty of room for your foot to move when walking for a long time
ultimately I got rid of them after a couple of months because I didn't like the look of the sole. It felt too casual to wear dressed up and not interesting enough to wear dressed down
Last week I was at 3sixteen in NYC and they had just started carrying these Sanders derbys, and I picked up a pair. They're heavier, but to me they look nicer dressed up and down, and the fit & comfort are pretty similar.
https://www.bradshawandlloyd.com/product/sanders-worcester-black/
Miles
Bradshaw & Lloyd
Sanders Worcester in Black Waxy Leather
The new Sanders Worcester 4-eyelet plain front derby has a storm welt and is fully leather lined. Made in Sanders' Rushden, England.
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@AllMooseNoAntlers I feel like for like
both fit well with my style
i'm kind of doing it as like, a slightly more dressy doc