Best Atlassian alternative?

Does any of you know of any nice alternatives to Atlassian (Jira/Confluence etc) What I am looking for is a nice tool/platform for managing all our projects from one place 🤔 Where the company can have multiple projects and each project potentially can have multiple boards/teams (one for design one for backend and one for frontend for example) I want to be able to keep documentation on the board/team level, the project level and the company level.
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dobarx_15257
dobarx_15257•16mo ago
ClickUp instead of Jira and Notion instead of Confluence.
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
I want everything in one place, I don't wanna have to spread it out over multiple different platforms/tools =/
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
what would you need confluence for? clickup has a feature of creating "docs", so you might as well be good with that
dobarx_15257
dobarx_15257•16mo ago
I remembered other one - Mattermost + Focalboard . It covers team communication, tasks and notes. Never used it though. But I know they are trying to make open source alternative to Slack + Jira + Confluence
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Does it support having docs on the organization level, project level and team level? I really need to be able to at least have docs on the organization level and on the project level. We used Mattermost at a previous gig for a while, not a big fan, worse version of slack imo
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
hmm, I haven't had a use for that, not sure about such granular structure, but I think it supports that lemme check
dobarx_15257
dobarx_15257•16mo ago
Good to know. I will also skip on it in the future.
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
clickup structure is as following: workspace -> spaces -> folders(without nesting)/lists/docs/whiteboards -> lists/docs/whiteboards you can't add folders in workspace level oh i missed one thing - spaces can contain folders too lemme edit
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Damn then that rules it out for now I guess... one space could be one project and then one folder one team but then we lose out on the organization level documents which is probably the main thing that is hard to find on these platforms
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
oh wait you actually can add docs
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
its like a section on top of workspace then
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notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
ignore my naming yeah i find the UI a bit confusing, I dont happen to use clickup that much, so it just might take time for you to get used to it, but I think you should be good with clickup actually
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
seems like Github also has support for most of these things but gonna be hard to convince non devs we should use github for it
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
yeah I had this exact trouble once, too 😄 clickup can be integrated with github issues when you create something in a canban board on clickup(and have enabled syncing for the board) it automatically creates and closes issues on PR's even I think
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Shortcut also looks quite nice, damn there are too many platforms for these things 😂
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
I think you'll like this one bit...
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notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
first time hearing about shortcut. from what i see it's got quite alot of integrations
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Shortcut responded to my mail within like 5 minutes as well so that's a plus ^^
notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
insane
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
haha I saw some guy on another server that seems to hate Clickup @notdevkey 😂
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notdevkey
notdevkey•16mo ago
>> proceeds to not provide any reason as to why clickup is confusing, i agree on that part for every thing you can find a guy who absolutely despises it, and that's fine 😄
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Seems like shortcut won't work for us. They only seem to support documentation on workspace level (which for us would have to be one workspace per project because we need to invite external people sometimes)
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
github project free and custom (api acess)
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
We sometimes need to invite external people to our boards though but we don't wanna give them access to our repos so it kinda rules it out I guess?
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
not actually, you can leave it semi public and you don't need to link it to a repository (access control) these are new features that are being implemented recently, github projects are currently very active in their updates, I migrated 2 months ago from jira to it and it is working very well
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
But if we have let's say 100 repos and all of them have separate projects won't it easily become very chaotic if it is not linked to the repositories? Does Github support organization level documentation btw? 🤔
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
no because he manages to cross references (1 board for several repos, in fact he links the issue to the board not the other way around) currently I manage 6 repository for a single board and I manage to separate the questions that I don't want linked to the board
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
I think we would rather want multiple boards for one repo (one for designers and one for developers for example) And we want separate boards for each repo because they are completely separate projects most of the time
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
I did this on my board (separated by view)
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Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
you can create custom views and filters (and custom coluns and values to pin)
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Yeah but that's because you are working on all of these You would not want to see things you are not working on.
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
cross repos and cross issues and cross boards
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
And github lacks organization level documentation as well right?
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
u can filter by signal like minus "-" to filtern
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
There is no way to add wiki pages to the organization level it seems like
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
i use organization and u can use without organization level
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
I want to have documentation (lots of docs) on organization level. Github doesn't support this I think
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
you can add link and readme maybe u need creat one repo with only wikis
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Sounds like a very annoying solution for it and no way I'd get PO's and Designers to agree on that
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
you can use github pages or disscussion section for this
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
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Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
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Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
And I want to have multiple boards per project (one for developers and one for designers at least) and I want to have that linked to the repo (if it's in github) so that only people that are working on those repos see those boards but I still want to be able to have external users invited to the board without having access to the code.
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
U can do it use permission to troubleshotting acesses (the organization mode have this) the permission its not only for repo (its for projects and other areas of github check docs)
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
@wezter96 i use this to combo figma with github https://www.figma.com/github-for-figjam/
Figma
GitHub and FigJam
Go from planning projects to shipping code faster with the GitHub widget for FigJam.
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
Track better in FigJam Streamline design to development workflows in Figma
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Seems like Linear might be the best bet for us and just keep the global documentation somewhere else. It's an option that seems like it will be easier to manage
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
@wezter96 for manage permission use teams fature
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Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
u talk about https://linear.app/ yes its a good option
Linear
Linear – A better way to build products
Linear streamlines issues, sprints, and product roadmaps. It’s the new standard for modern software development.
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
yeah exactly, seems like it might be the best option for us right now, way easier to get PO's and Designers to use it as well 😄
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
@wezter96 https://site.gitscrum.com/ its a other alternative (very useful and with lot features (have pay one time forever)
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
Oh that's nice! Do you know about how their "docs support" looks like?
Moisés L. Ferreira
Moisés L. Ferreira•16mo ago
GitScrum Wiki - We help teams work together better, through better ...
Everybody collaborates using their strengths, improving ideas, coming up with better ones instead of getting stuck. Knowledge is shared so you can make extraordinary things happen with your projects
Wezter
WezterOP•16mo ago
This is my current list after removing like 5-10 other ones 😅 Linear $8-12/user (nice desktop app and mobile app, lacks organization level documentation but that could be handled by creating an organziation project that contains organization documents) Shortcut $8-12/user (no desktop or mobile app, similar limitations to Linear but might be a bit more fully featured as a project management tool) ClickUp $7-12/user (desktop and mobile app, documentation on all levels and seems quite fully featured) Some that I have seen mentioned in some places but haven't looked into much yet. YouTrack 4$/user (Jetbrains product) GitScrum $273/year for unlimited users (Not sure if it works well with multiple projects)
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