The Elder Statesman
AKA the coolest & most expensive cashmere known to mankind. Super cool LA Beach vibe...and as luxurious as it comes.
https://elder-statesman.com/collections/men-hand-dyed
The Elder Statesman
MEN: HAND DYED
The Elder Statesman is an LA based luxury lifestyle brand founded in 2007 by Greg Chait. Specializing in cashmere ready to wear apparel, accessories, kids and home goods.
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I want to know if people here are wearing it
it's a very aspirational
Don't own any but they put out some nice designs. Not aware of any other brands doing tie dye and intricate intarsia/patterns with cashmere. Handled it for the first time at TRR and it felt like other upscale cashmere sweaters.
Definitely a very specific niche since the high end cashmere I know isn’t in these kinds of patterns
If I had a lot of money and an expensive weed habit this is all I'd wear
Been seeing a lot of their stuff on sale lately. How much would I just be paying for the brand name?
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Handled it for the first time at TRR and it felt like other upscale cashmere sweaters.like any designer you're paying for the name and for the design is it worth it to you? that's a question only you can answer
I guess im wondering like, designs aside, are there better value options for quality?
Definitely some of there stuffs very unique for looks
nobody is getting "value" at that price point
if you're talking about "value" as in discount cost clothes you should not be looking at $1k+ stuff
I mean on sale I've been seen them sub $500
But idk nothing about cashmere
and vice versa if you're looking at $1k+ stuff there's no real point in trying to eek out marginal difference in the $1k vs the $800 etc etc
you can go to Banana Republic et al and get cashmere stuff under $200
and it's not gonna feel that much different
especially if you know nothing about cashmere
sorry I'm not trying to be a dick it's just the term "value" is wholly personal and loaded and no one can really tell you how you should feel about the clothes you buy
Yea no worries. I'm most just trying to get at like, literal material quality, attention to detail, etc.
(same with "quality" other than basic QA of "do the seams line up where they're supposed to" etc etc)
again I think the "material quality" is not what you think it is
people assume it to be thickness or something
which it's not really
like there's rub rating
aka how much friction can it tolerate
there's a density and weight
there's a hair length (average thread length)
Cuz I know some luxury brands actually make a worse product looking if you're just talking purely objectively
the things I'm describing are objective
but they aren't all aligned - you can have some maxed out but not all
and they'll also have different levels of comfort, and different vectors of comfort
are they soft to the touch vs flexible to wear
fwiw, cashmere is not regarded as the most durable fabric so I think having even a discussion along the actual objective lines is a bit fraught
I c
since it's like asking "which egg is least fragile for my fridge"
it's a material that's soft and warm and often woven pretty thin
Gotcha
Thnx for all the info
Kinda dead thread BUT for anyone wondering/needing some additional insight: I've owned a grand total of 2 items. Both purchased on sale years back. I've been in their LA store a few times and I've seen them at one of their stockists so I've handled a good amount of their products. The two items I have are both cardigans. The fully cashmere one is a semi-long shawl collar that I've surrendered to the gf. The other cardigan was a funky one made from a "teddy" fabric that's composed of cashmere, silk, and baby alpaca. I unfortunately run hot and I actually moved to LA so I stopped buying their stuff (funny I know but their shit is also luxury taxed, so there's that). If you have the money and you're REALLY into their psychedelic and cozy thing they've got going on, then I'd recommend waiting for sales at the very least. I remember a good amount of their stuff going down to around 50% but I haven't followed the brand in a while so things might have changed.