OS-suggestion (Nix0S)

suggestion for support this one: NixOS ? (I'm newbie but seems to be a very stable OS)
33 Replies
raycert07
raycert0717mo ago
This is not really a suggestion channel And more os's are not going to be added There's no point Stability is more or less the same across all linux based os's And there would be even less support for apps on arm on such an obscure package manager On arch there's already a good amount less packages for arm, and that's the second most popular base distribution. TL:DR Debian or arch can do the same things nixos can, but better with more support.
Stef
StefOP17mo ago
I was an archlinux-distro user for years, now beginner with NixOS. If I say it's feeling very stable you can count on that, try this OS yourself with a liveISO. I wasn't talking about the package-manager although I still like pacman very much! I was talking about the OS-system itself. The problem with archlinux is that many packages you have to get out of AUR and that's not very stable for the whole system.
raycert07
raycert0717mo ago
The only thing that makes a distro different is the package manager Because you can extract a linux program from its packaging like a deb and run it on any Linux based os Not without dependency issues of course, but it runs. All Linux os's run the same code. The only thing setting them apart is the package manager, the packages available out of the box, and the desktop environment look. The aur just tells the system how to compile a program. On nix, since there's such limited apps available, you'd need to compile them yourself which would lead to more issues
Stef
StefOP17mo ago
search.nixos.org = 80 000 packages archlinux.org/packages = 13988 packages (without AUR -> needs to be compiled!) aur.archlinux.org = 85755 packages okay, with nixos we have to compile it all (these packages, but it takes less time than compiling a package with aur, did you try to see the difference?) [unless you use flatpak (via flathub) and a gui-installer that uses flatpak]
raycert07
raycert0717mo ago
It's not going to take less time unless you get a better device.
Fang
Fang16mo ago
I think you're missing a lot of the main point of nixos It is A. Completely reproducible I can take my nixos config file and put it on another device and it will make my exact system again And B. More resilient to breaking with stupidity Because each time you change your config file it backs up the old one And on boot you can choose which to use So if some package makes your system unusable You just revert to a previous config file easy This reproducibility means you can switch phones easily and still have all your stuff installed, and if you have to reset termux to try something else you can easily restore from your config file if you keep it on internal storage
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
As is any other os It'd all linux
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Much much much more difficult and annoying to do
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
It all works the same The package manager is the only thing different
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Nixos everything is governed by a single file
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
Linux is linux The packages are all the same You can extract any distro package and run it on any other distro
Fang
Fang16mo ago
The packages are the same but it legitimately is the way it manages them that is awesome No duh
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
You can even install it's package manager on any other distro
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Less true
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
Can't be too good, it's used by almost nobody
Fang
Fang16mo ago
It's not gonna work properly
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
It is true.
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Not true
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
Yes, it will
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Used widely for system administration Due to that easy reproducibility
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
It's linux kernel with package That's all it is
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Having apt and nix at the same time
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
Yeah it's possible
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Would mean none of your apt packages were in your config file
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
I've ran dpkg on arch
Fang
Fang16mo ago
And it would defeat the point
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
It wouldn't because it's all linux It's not special because of its package manager I can recreate the entire system in a couple hours on debain Or arch
Fang
Fang16mo ago
It is special because of it's package manager
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
Or anything
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Chris Titus Tech
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NixOS is Mindblowing
NixOS has blown my mind with how businesses are utilizing it and the job offers I have received for managing it. You need to learn it! Article: https://christitus.com/nixos-explained/ NixOS Videos - First-Time Setup - https://youtu.be/_Z32SYFbxpw - In-Depth Configuration - https://youtu.be/IRRtk320j2A - SystemD Tweaks - https://youtu.be/1qd0iH...
Fang
Fang16mo ago
The package manager is most certainly the cool part
raycert07
raycert0716mo ago
That dude has some bullshit clickbait And he's a bit of a hypocrite
Fang
Fang16mo ago
Chris Titus is like a pretty well liked dude from my understanding Cause of his windows tool and such His windows tool genuinely does make life so much easier each time I have to use windows
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