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4S designs is awesome, but their 2024 preview was really disappointing imo
da algoresky w the 4s thread for today
Definitely don't disagree, those few looks on IG were not for me. That said, the actual lookbook for SS24 is pretty great. I'll throw a dozen pics here (all available here) https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-2024-menswear/4sdesigns/slideshow/collection
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4SDesigns Spring 2024 Menswear Fashion Show
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had to do it wuz
nah i took a look at that, im not a huge fan, theres like a few looks i like but im rather disappointed
though this season was much better
these are the looks i like the most from it though
they are too expensive new, but I am incredibly impressed with the shirt I got from them from SS23 on the ssense sale, its so nice
the ss24 looks i dig
Which one did you end up snagging from ssense? THe contrast collar ones are a surprise hit for me. Got burned from an earlier sale for a few seasons prior where one of the tencel twill shirts shrunk like 4 sizes the moment it got wet. This current season has been good for me in that regard
https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/4sdesigns/pink-wide-shirt/12478781
I've managed to handwash it too with no damage
which is good, im not gonna dry clean a summer shirt lol
oh that one rocks, i have the fw version of it (same shirt just orange not pink lol). The pink one is such a gem
i also really wanted https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/4sdesigns/pink-wide-shirt/12478791 but at $500 its still a touch too much for me
it is super awesome
suprisingly easy to wear too imo
my one complaint is the logo is too close to the breast pocket, ive damaged the stitching from accidently hitting it
what's your size? saks just ended 20% extra https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/4s-designs-jacquard-floral-boxy-shirt-0400018240040.html?dwvar_0400018240040_color=PINK%20BLACK
yeah, i end up picking the logo badge most of the time
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ah damn, will keep an eye out. today's got it but they probably won't go below $600 or so. THe matching shorts rock, they've got a little snap on the front and back that's like the ripoff shorts we had as kids but to make them a skirt
yoox has some good stuff cheap as hell. https://www.yoox.com/us/13885755CM/item#dept=men&sts=sr_men80 up your alley
fuck that looks insane, unfortunatly i tend to be a 30 in the waist
ill keep an eye on that though
full vicose slacks like that would be perfect for the summer
don't get the ones from ssense that are brown and 100% viscose. I've got them, and they wrinkle like hell.
the black 90% viscose 10% poly have been great though
the real problem is i have a 30 waist with like 25" diameter thighs, makes buying pants online a shitshow lol
good to know
ahhh yeah, you're screwed outside of maybe the everyday pant
im a massive fan of the brand from seeing their SS23 lookbook though, need to find someone who might stock them irl near me
guess saks
whereabouts are ya? i'm too much of a nerd and have their stockists pretty organized. their site hits about 50% of them as well
boston
nothing in the city or immediate suburbs right now
saks/nordstrom are both NYC iirc
i need to visit ny more too so if you give me the nyc ones next time i go down ill take a look
there is a saks in boston, don't know if they carry it
oh, i meant i think they only carry it in nyc on 5th for both of em
ok
good to know
I have to say they go so cheap on sale
its insane to me
yeah. being that the brand has been around for 6 seasons you'd think the sell through would be better. then again, years ago (2014?) you were able to get kapital off mrporter for a song because it hadn't caught on yet. Hopefully it's that scenario so we can keep seeing the different fabrics / leather treatments the brand comes up with
ya, i can't afford retail rn so being early on this brand will help a lot lol
its close though, an ALD employee commented on the brand when I wore their shirt in store last week
absolutely insane piece https://www.grailed.com/listings/46856924-4sdesigns-reversible-cropped-ma1-jacket?g_aidx=Listing_production&g_aqid=e8ecdf33414c7ffae75252273bf37e10
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But ya
That's so sick
if you fit a 48/32ish short, these rock. I sized up to 50 and they're perfectly wearable, also have a pair in a diff fabric in 48 and they're fine https://www.nordstrom.com/s/4sdesigns-pinwale-corduroy-shorts/6417864?origin=category-personalizedsort&breadcrumb=Home%2FBrands%2F4SDesigns&color=020
I'm definitely too small for those
fwiw, they're just baggies. Thighs might actually fit
nah in waist, im a 30 US with vanity sizing, around a 32 for true size
also I just don't wear shorts much
both good reasons. I think i'm the same size in pants as you just with a significantly smaller drop
https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/4s-designs-animal-print-camp-shirt-0400018240085.html
Great deal on the shirt I have
Big Saks sale in general: https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/brand/4s-designs
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that's a cool shirt! some crazy deals on saks damn
these shorts are kinda cool ngl https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/4s-designs-tearaway-woven-shorts-0400018240089.html?dwvar_0400018240089_color=BLACK
I have a shirt (I actually posted it today on wawyt) and some boucle shorts that I like from 4S
big fan of the fabrics and the owner seems cool
something for someone much cooler than me https://www.therealreal.com/products/men/clothing/outerwear/4s-designs-printed-overcoat-i0ptq
damn I'm tempted but no way I can pull that off
thats an insane deal though
not the best materials for a coat though
but damn thats basically my size for an overcoat
yeah. i've got an overshirt and pants in the fabric. it's definitely a couch fabric and one for stylizing and not a good One Coat
I have some other overcoats, just can't see myself using that one effectively
one to wear On A Night Out With The Wife to A Michelin Star
That is so cool
but the background music makes it so i can't take it seriously lol
Fall winter stuff starting to show up!
Some Bonkers stuff so far
* Tromp l'oeil corduroy in calf nubuck - https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-leather-corduroy-ern-pant-light-grey
* Alpaca shacket (Also at cueva so far) https://www.luisaviaroma.com/en-us/p/4sdesigns/men/78I-SPN010?ColorId=ODcgQ0hBUkNPQUw1&lvrid=_p_dSPN_gm
Some wtf stuff
* Indigo dyed sweat for nearly 1k https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-reversible-flecce-crewneck-blue-artisinal-tye-dye
*Poly leather-effect carpenter pants https://stoy.com/en-us/collections/4sdesigns/products/f23-257-1018-90-carpenter-pants-in-black
New Stockists:
* Luisaviaroma https://www.luisaviaroma.com/en-us/shop/men/4sdesigns?lvrid=_gm_dspn&SortType=NewIn
* Stoy (is this a real store?) https://stoy.com/en-us/collections/4sdesigns
Deals on SS
* Final markdowns at Saks https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/s/SaksFifthAvenue/search?q=4sdesigns&srule=newest&start=0
* Final markdowns at nordstrom https://www.nordstrom.com/brands/4sdesigns--22064?origin=productBrandLink&sort=Newest
* Yoox https://www.yoox.com/us/men/shoponline/4sdesigns_d?d=51073&dept=men&gender=U&page=1&season=X&sort=2
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@smiles could see you wearing the hell out of this piece. Black floral without being obnoxiously 'romantic' https://stoy.com/en-us/collections/4sdesigns/products/f23-138-1007-90-longsleeved-polo-shirt-in-black
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ya, may have to wait for a sale but that is an amazing piece, right up my alley
huh did SSENSE drop them or just haven't stocked yet
not sure yet. I know today's got an order in and hasn't posted them yet. Think they restarted their logistics post-summer in early sept. might not be processed at ssense yet
but rest assured everything ssense gets will be 80% off in 3 months
š¤they get the corduroy leather joints
ya i will definetly need some discounts to continue to finance 4S lol
i've got em in 30 sittin next to me. they're very cool. fabric obv is great. taper fit. elastic waistband, tie on the inside to adjust the waist further than the elastic
honestly wouldn't be worth $600, but i was happy paying yoox prices
Tried on the corduroy leather today. Absolutely bonkers
They did a jacket in it, too
that looks fire
Today has the reptile leatherette as a setup. Wild stuff but not for me
A heavy viscose twill shacket that kicked ass
Realized finally that this fall winter is leathers that look like fabric and fabric that looks like leather. A fun juxtaposition
this styling sucks, but this shirt is damn cool
keep your eyes open for the scarves. this one is incredible https://www.todayclothing.com/collections/latest/products/4sdesigns-neckercheif-grey-tournier-fantasie-tweed-plaid
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4SDESIGNS NECKERCHEIF GREY TOURNIER FANTASIE TWEED PLAID
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best version yet of these shorts conceptually -- they're the baggy shorts that have the snap to turn into a skirt. beautiful execution to take it to a lightweight leather. Too bad the price is nuts https://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/product/4sdesigns/clothing/casual-shorts/wide-leg-logo-appliqued-leather-drawstring-shorts/1647597311215765
these slap https://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/product/4sdesigns/clothing/casual-trousers/plus-throwing-fits-utility-straight-leg-leather-corduroy-trousers/1647597321605011
i saw these and thought they were lame cause I didn't realize they were leather
holy shit thats sick
fun to see how other people style the brand. this person just popped up on my radar. great fits https://www.instagram.com/p/CxVE3UhLqRu/?img_index=1
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But sick styling
Make it 30
The spotlight reminded me that they are claiming their theme for this season is "Appropriating Womenswear appropriating Menswear"
Been a recurring theme! Never seems to be in silhouette as they all use conventional masc silhouettes. It's always in the details like the snapskirting, the couture-riffed fabrics, the treatments, and the styling. I think they hit it this season (FW23) pretty well. the shiny "nightlife" sweater that's conventionally a dress or blazer fabric. The lipstick. In pic 2: the longline silhouette with a soft fabric. The velvet contrast collar. The venetian loafers that are close in shape to a ballet flat. Pic 3 with the tights over the skirted detail short and a very basic fem styling . 4: the viscose shirting with the flats again.
these really show it to me. Super cool
I'm worried ssense didn't stock them this year and I won't get the sick end of season sales lol
haha. Nordstrom stocked em and hasn't put their buy up yet. Most places are still waiting on another delivery
that polo you linked above I want badly
even that hit 25% off already! i snagged it at i think $220 shipped?
I expect those cord leather painters to hit 50% at porter and would be up your alley bigtime
speaking of - extra20% on stuff here https://www.sneakersnstuff.com/en/1787/4sdesigns
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buy this setup and get shot by a celtics fan https://www.sneakersnstuff.com/en/product/59520/4sdesigns-work-shirt
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4SDesigns Work Shirt - S23/124/0981/4779 - Sneakersnstuff (SNS) | S...
This Work Shirt byĀ 4SDesigns features an eye-catchingĀ richly textured dobby grid pattern, combined with patch pockets on the chest and aĀ 4SDesigns brand patch above th
where did iit hit the sale?
I'm a celtics fan
get the knicks setup and then beat yourself up
definetly not happening lmao
hit sale at saks -- they've been rotating through 25%, then 500$ for $100gc, to no disc, hten back to 25% the last few weeks
haven't paid enough attention to gather the time it rotates, but would expect no discount soon then back to 25%
this is also up your alley for a song. Coggles hasn't gotten anything post FW22 https://www.coggles.com/p/clothing/4sdesigns-tartan-print-cloque-t-shirt/13881378/
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good loooks I'll keep an eye oout
I meant the rose polo which I don't think Saks has?
ooooh
yeah, not yet. thought you meant the leatherblock rugby
https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-woven-crewneck-529-0908-48
https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-woven-crewneck-black-recycled-polyamide-matelasse
wait those are sick
i was poking at the feminine spotlight and found my way here
might be crazy, but i actually dig this styling from italist
i dig it, 2nd one goes hard
Got this rec'd on youtube -- ss24 video. Way different feel to the fits than the static pics (what a surprise). Highlight that I missed from the pics was the jacket at 43s. big surprise on the turn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zDcKmr3-cI
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Discover the spring/summer 2024 mens collection showcased at Paris Fashion Week! Angelo Urrutia takes inspiration in the timeless American films and fashion tropes, portraying American archetypes. He blends the classics with the shine of the late ā90s, infusing them with a contemporary twist.
The blazer with the internal strap that allowed it to be worn with a slipped shoulder is sick. Also the shirt with off center buttons and the big white patchwork coat look so good in this video
Saks already running some (relatively small) sales on this season
yeah, and they've posted some new stuff
as in today drops
lookbook had this one being just a boring "old school" plaid. didn't realize that it was viscose with a furry yarn as the stripe in the plaid. crazy! Just posted today https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/4s-designs-plaid-flocked-twill-work-shirt-0400019356147.html?dwvar_0400019356147_color=OLIVE%20BLACK
So hot
two other things that were posted in the last day. This one is up your alley @smiles https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-utility-pant-16oz-mixed-bottonato-homespun-hb-tweed . They've got the chenille version in brown too (had no idea what the fabric was until they posted. thought it might have been a suede!)
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Utility Pant - Bottonato Herringbone Tweed
Workwear trousers done the 4SDesigns way. Built off a generous block with a full leg, the double-knee pant devised by Angelo Urrutia bring a level of refinement and luxury that is rarely afforded to this hard-wearing staple. A virgin wool herringbone is used on this version, homespun withĀ a multicoloured 'bottonato' sp
And for family in fashion, and what I think is the coolest piece from the brand: https://uptherestore.com/products/4sdesigns-woven-tshirt-9oz-grey-viscose-silk-chenille
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Woven T-Shirt - Grey Viscose/Silk Chenille
A master of storytelling, 4SDesigns founder and designer Angelo Urrutia presents a t-shirtĀ withĀ deep personal meaning. The carnation flower pattern across the front was drawn by Angelo's daughter Ahmeliaāshe even signed her workāsignalling Urrtia's intention to highlight the important women in his life.
Damn these are sick
EoS sales hopefully deep enough I can buy some
How do the clothes tend to run size-wise? Iām interested in a polo on sale but itās only available in a small and there isnāt really any sort of useful size guide (it says the model is 6ā2 and with a 40ā chest and 31 inch waist and wears a medium; Iām about 4 inches shorter than that but with a similar chest and waist)
depends on season, currently they tend to fit oversized. Might be able to find it on another site to get the measurements
Fit on the ss23 polos are big in chest but a bit cropped.
Thanks! The chest is where I was the most worriedā¦ I think Iāll risk it since it looks like I can most likely return if necessary
got to see a bit more of this season in person at Today. They picked this up -- want to highlight it here. It's a chenille lace that's lined. Definitely an overshirt. No at all transparent because of the lining. Absolutely gorgeous piece, and a big surprise to me. The yarn used for it is a chenille, so it's so so soft. Unexpected with a lace. Probably the best piece this season in the feminine inspired category https://cuevashop.com/collections/4sdesigns/products/black-lace-overshirt
notre's buy is finally up, 30% off on day of release lmao. if you buy something, expect it to take a month to arrive https://www.notre-shop.com/collections/4s-designs?sort_by=created-descending
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They finally updated their site for FW, prices will be bad but they will have everything they put out
The site is so slow because it loads every fullsize image when you hit it. Like 1gig of download each visit lol
But it's nice to get the copy for the fabrics
some extremely cheap fw22 stuff on yoox https://www.yoox.com/us/30147645OD/item#dept=men&sts=sr_men80
new detail for this season i missed: brand is woven into the elastic for the waist. nuts!
oh yeah meant to @smiles on this - great piece that's up your alley https://www.yoox.com/us/10268865XQ/item#dept=men&sts=sr_men80&cod10=10268865XQ&sizeId=5
Not my style but I appreciate the shout
is Stoy a real store? Why do they have the polo for $200 less than anywhere else
without a marked sale
even with shipping from Denmark its still way cheaper
Yeah, they are real. Got a pair of secondhand sk manor pants that had a stoy tag lol
4s pricing is fucked. I want the chenille painters. $600ish on 4s, $740 on mrporter, $450 at stoy or somewhere like it
They aren't big enough to push a fixed price and thus you get wild differences. Also learned they don't really give an MSRP right now
huh thats real weird
i mean they must have a wholesale price
huh nah if you switch the country of their website the prices changes wtf
also weird that if i set it to denmark it gives the price in euro instead of krone
but it gives the price as 375 ā¬ but if I set the country to the US the price changes to $525
maybe they charge Duties since its made in Europe
but if I don't import it but have it shipped from europe I'm dodging that
fwiw @smiles looks like 30% is on at porter in cart
ok looks like its about the same price then, i will likely pull trig in a few days
hopefully my size doesn't sell out before then
fyi stoy is running 40% off their Danish prices which is a pretty insane deal
Damn, hello Amelia shirt
same 40% at notre -- BF40. Of note is leather shorts, cropped bomber, and the wool/silk side button pants
Finally everything except the throwingfits stuff is marked down at porter
wtf notre is at extreme clearance
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4SDESIGNS - Men's - Notre
Shop 4SDESIGNS men's collection. Outerwear, pants, and footwear from Angelo Urrutia's debut label 4SDESIGNS are now available at Notre.
this is like wholesale. notre must be having trouble paying rent in the west loop and for a massive warehouse again
huh, none of what they have really appeals to me
great prices though
pretty much all 60% off
fwiw Stoy is now down to 60% on their remaining 4S items (on the Danish prices)
the price is absolutely insane on these: https://stoy.com/en-us/collections/4sdesigns/products/f23-257-1018-90-carpenter-pants-in-black
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saks ecom 75% off. some real gems https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/s/SaksFifthAvenue/search?q=4sdesigns
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This is nuts
fw24 up on vogue https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/fall-2024-menswear/4sdesigns
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4SDesigns Fall 2024 Menswear Collection
4SDesigns Fall 2024 Menswear collection, runway looks, beauty, models, and reviews.
Bit disappointing, though I suspect I'll like individual pieces more. Favorite looks:
drawn to the lepoard print
yeah both of these leopard prints look cool
i like these two fits a lot
fabrics for the season seem neato
Fabrics definitely seem cool. Herringbone Tweed Printed leather being my highlight (tough to pull out which one was leather on these pics until ya really zoom in).
Honestly love this collection, though it feels like the smallest evolution of the brand yet. All the styling is pretty "samey" from previous seasons. On that though, this is definitely a lookbook you could pull looks from wholesale and feel comfortable in.
For me, the interesting things are
* the rebuild-esque bomber (croc leather arms are a beautiful touch, as is the denim-leather(?) workshirt.
* Next-Step-Shacket with the crocs-imprint and woven leather and silk triple pleats in a sharp taper/drop crotch silhouette
* Velvets all have a perfect sheen compared to most that I've seen in lookbooks
* Cargoes are finally getting more adventerous with pockets all around in one spot, silhouette is still goofy tapered
* A liner jacket shape I really like. Turning the inside into a lapel of sorts is pretty elegant and a nice rip of womenswear RTW (and the pants are the leather which are incredible with a bigger silhouette)
* look 24 is the first silhouette that feels "elegant" for the brand to my eye
yo what the fuck!!! this is nuts! i don't think this got made outside of a sample https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/clothing/coats/4s-designs-shearling-fur-coat-k367z
@algoresky lemme pick your brain on some sizing before I order a piece
Cause I've been going back and forth hard over whether I should get this jacket in a IT50 or IT52
is it the moldy shiny green one on porter?
yes
I normally wear a L in 4S tops
i've got last season's in a 46 i can measure for ya. 46/small worked very well for me. Caveat that sleeves were long
and i'm small in every top from 4s i've ever owned
no they have a detailed size guide actually
its mostly im getting griefed because I'm normally more of a US42 jacket size
oh fuck yeah. where's your brain at in terms of concern?
mostly just wanna make sure I don't regret the size I go with
super torn over the 52 vs 50, but probably leaning towards the 50?
just cause the slightly shorter length + sleeve length? That shoulder measurement is my only worry (I'm like a 19" shoulder tight fit)
its super funny how the 46 and 48 are pretty close together and the 50 and 52 are pretty close together but the jump from the 48 to 50 is huge
imo it styles best as a true shacket -- midweight / midlayer. I'd go 50 (as your tts) if you've been happy with your polo. It does definitely fit trimmer than those (at least the leather panel one i have this season).
The time I'd consider going up with your build is if you're not wanting it to be a midlayer. Will be 'normal' fit at TTS i'd guess and throwing a heavy wool coat over it could work. Up might be strange in terms of wider armholes bunching things up if you'd want to throw something over it
that said, not a surprise. I haven't been able to figure out if the wonky sizing is a grading technique, QA issue, or just intentional. The brown leatherette quilted shacket at a shop I tried had the exact same fit/measurements in S and XL. Might have been one off QA, but I haven't been able to piece it all together.
Given this is my pink shirt I think the 50 is likely the move
I can't find a size chart for my polo lol, looks like its hidden on Mr. Porter since its OOS
but ya the sizing is a bit wonky in general
thanks for the help
speaking of large - i bought and returned that fur shearling thing off therealreal. cool piece, tagged size L and absolutely fits it.
as far from a style i'd ever wear in the real world as is possible, but if it hits a cheap enough price and is your vibe please get it as it rocks.
thats awesome but there is 0 chance i can pull that off
did you tailor your sleeves?
kinda worried with the detailing but I don't see a way around it
Pics
I didn't tailor my sleeves, though I've gotta wear em cuffed if i don't button em. I'd get em shortened, I think the button detailing is kinda useless
neat conceptually as it gives you this nice pleat effect in theory, in practice it missed for me and ended up causing annoying weird stacking
my button holes aren't even cut all the way through on the sleeves
i'm getting them tailored
they are way too long for me
I just don't see any way I can avoid tailoring them
i think that was intentional. They sewed the outside of mine up -- i think it's intended to follow the "you can hide the button if you'd like" as it worked for me as a closure and matched the front hidden button motif.
that said, with ya 100%. Honestly nothing real lost cuttin em to size, and it's a super easy hem
Ya I think they are too long to not look goofy
crossroads in LA had this bad boy
says ss 23 but couldnāt find in a lookbook
ime they dont put everything in lookbooks
Honestly what's available any given season is a fucking mystery between all the stockists ordering subsets
deals really getting insane at Stoy
just bought these used ass sabots for $40 š¤
these with paisley embroidering on it went up on grailed in my size and ive been debating lowballing the guy
ooo i think i was eyeing those too. was gonna wait a week or two to offer like $150 haha
lmao well im even more glad you picked this pair up then
first ss24 bits are starting to roll in. https://oallery.com/collections/4sdesigns
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got over to todayclothing today and coincidentally they'd just posted their ss24 first delivery online. Insanely priced, but insanely cool https://www.todayclothing.com/collections/latest/products/4sdesigns-lp-activity-vest-olive-long-yarn-fil-coupe-organza
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4SDESIGNS LP ACTIVITY VEST OLIVE LONG-YARN FIL-COUPE' ORGANZA
4SDESIGNS LP ACTIVITY VEST OLIVE LONG-YARN FIL-COUPE' ORGANZA - Vest with front panels of LONG-YARN FIL-COUPE' ORGANZA- 2 way zip front- detachable chest pocket- mesh back- 34% Wool, 25% Polyester, 18% Cotton- 15% Polyamide, 4% Silk, 4% Viscose- MADE IN ITALY
the pocket being clip on is cool
hardware on it gives a nice "clink" too
oh they got the open back blazer too
I ended up buying a pair of the overpants. Blazer cuts didn't work for me at all, but the open back blazer is special https://www.todayclothing.com/collections/latest/products/4sdesigns-open-pl-blazer-10oz-black-viscose-poly-twill
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4SDESIGNS OPEN PL BLAZER 10OZ. BLACK VISCOSE / POLY TWILL
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im really digging the blazer this season that has the alternative buttoning
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That's the one I'm looking out for yet, love the cropped shape to it. iirc it is a mostly rip of an old (80s) cdg homme jacket
the open back blazer was the first one that felt like actual interesting tailoring from what i've tried from the brand. Really a beautiful piece even though it didn't work for me
huh, id def like to see it in person
nothing near me stocks them tho
maybe when im in new york at the end of march
i'll caution ya on the tailoring: all the sleeves have finished buttonholes
ewwwwwwwwwww
the shirt jacket, cardigan jacket for sure can be hemmed (no buttons), I think the same for the spencer from the looks of it. The peak lapel and double breasted joints for the last few years (including ss24) all have finished sleeves tho
I will say theres nothing I've seen this season so far that has gotten me super excited but its early
im also curious if ssense will stock them again
once it warms up here a bit i'll snap a pic of the over pant. It's a nice silhouette and the drape in the viscose is a lot of fun
since they didn't this FW
def curious about it
black vicose pants cool
If anyone has anything with the trompe "button" snaps that fall off, they're 7/16" (or size 18). Can be reattached with something that fits that, or if you want to get a different snap of the same size it'll fit in the socket of a standard 7/16th
Closest I've been able to find to the ones on the shirt if you aim for the same "look" https://www.etsy.com/listing/1259962166/kelly-button-look-poly-pearl-snap
these are absolutely insane. Leopard Pattern made entirely out of sequins. I thought it was just one of the shiny fabrics in the lookbook, but it's so much cooler
the black are cool too and read like scales
holy
fuck
i think the black is actually better
just cause the leopard is so loud
honestly trying to even figure out how these are backed. look like a variation of these from bacus http://bacus-group.com/en/spangles-fabrics/5mm-spangles-fabric-strip-90-cm_-b.html . Looks like an incredible pain in the ass to sew
195 euro per meter?
yeah. according to cueva those black ones are velvet sequins. Velvet covered maybe? Just batshit
im sure these shorts will cost a fortune
but so cool
In case anyone is interested, here's a very half-assed list of current stockists and what they carry from ss24 so far. Will go back and add in old seasons still in stock as I get bored at work https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vqR46TPMOAg9hDr1ZG7s5GXP-appLJgIGDGoPCy9Z1A/edit
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4sdesigns stockists march 2024
good looks
raffia shirt finally showed up somewhere https://reforme-store.com/collections/4sdesigns/products/4s-designs-wide-camp-shirt . very not for me, hangs so strangely but so damn cool on a hanger
4S DESIGNS WORK SHIRT
This shirt is the most incredible piece of this season : the infamous Work Shirt from our favorite NYC based brand 4S DESIGNS. The unique fabric made of raffia and wool looks really crazy. The shirt fits true to size and has a regular cut. Ā 45% viscosa 21% wool 16,5% silk 7,5% acrylic Made in Italy
ew you're right
it looked so good in all the lead up but it looks so stiff on body
beautiful up close
from a distance though
i got the wooden sabots in and i gotta say
they are the most uncomfortable shoe iāve ever owned
been staring at this jacket and really wanted to love it. this is the only styling of it that hasn't looked mid
most look like this š„“
I like the jacket and the collarless design most of my jackets are collared
I think its bad, also I don't think its a coincidence the only one you like is one where the woman is wearing a chunky collared knit underneath with the collar acting as a replacement for the jacket collar
second pic looks like something my mom would buy from white house black market or one of those other old lady mall stores
Definitely. I think the volume on the bottom makes a huge (no pun intended) difference as well. I could see it working better in the second pic if the pants weren't essentially black 501s
Boucle carhart styled hoodie parka thing for $100 https://www.therealreal.com/products/men/clothing/outerwear/4s-designs-jacket-k366g
classic TRR, tag it as 4XL from measurements and claim 4S normally fits TTS
lol i have absolutely what tagged size it is. i do know they did not make this in 4xl
its a M or L based on the measurements lol 24.75-25" chest
would guess a L
either TRR is incompetant or someone cut off the tags
and theres a chance someone ruins this trying to machien wash it lol
not my style tho, looks like a fleece
apparently riccardi picked up 4s this season. is this the killing blow to smiles's interest in the brand
whats that mean
why would it being easier to get be a killing blow
pegged riccardi as a bad store that would be antithetical to your taste. Hope it's not that because their SS24 season buy looks pretty damn fun on IG
I've never been ngl
It's in Boston right?
yeah. so far all i've seen from ig is hoodies
I'll stop in next time Im in the area, it's near the few good Boston clothing stores
Looks like Saks might have their full buy up. https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/search?q=4sdesigns&srule=newest&start=0 Already discounted
I am ngl the fact this brand seems to sell so badly scares me a little
also kinda hate the pants they got
also jeeze the price on the workshirt
yeah, honestly don't think it'll survive many more seasons. their basics don't move and every store just picks up the workshirts (which are good, but how many couture tweed workshirts do ya need)
this fucking rocks though https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/4s-designs-satin-striped-utility-jacket-0400020573579.html?dwvar_0400020573579_color=MULTI
always been curious how they survived this long and who their demo is
i get the fabrics and materials are crazy cool and all but their pricing is astronomical
I also love them but their styling is lack luster and they don't seem to have a target demographic
And ya the pricing is insane
The brand doesn't feel cohesive in general. Like this season the blazers seem super disconnected from everything else they are doing.
Like the fabrics are insanely cool but that isn't a reason alone to buy from them
didn't snag pics in person, but this silk shirt blazer is incredible and as light as a feather (for better or worse)
O that's pretty
https://www.esquire.com/style/mens-fashion/a60278319/angelo-urrutia-4s-designs-five-fits-with/ shoutout @circleframes for the heads up
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New season absolutely crazy in person
where'd ya see it and what caught your eye
At cueva rn
Silk blazer is insane irl, leather that's printed like denim chore, the shorts you highlighted, and a reversible camp collar
I need that yellow floral shirt.
It's reversable
Different patterns inside vs outside
It's also over $1k so def wait for an end of season sale
Maybe not.
More than all of my household bills combined
They also have this and it's super stiff
Fwiw at end of season there's a chance it will be available at like 50-70% off
I don't think Ive bought any 4S full retail
Yeah the only 4s I got was 70% off and relatively reasonable at that price.
How's the hand of the shorts? Do they feel delicate, or that they'll actually survive being worn?
Less delicate than you expect, but kinda thick
https://www.therealreal.com/products/men/shoes/boots/4s-designs-leather-animal-print-lace-up-boots-l3mbk
these are sure to hit deep sale if someone wants em in a month
eager to see this on smiles
Xd
after he gets his car fixed again
Xdd
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this is cool
thats dope
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this feels like someone doesn't know what they have
that's a flipper. he's had it for like two years (tee). the interesting part of the tee is that it's like a fully fashioned knit. wild construction, even if the execution isn't for me
the vest is my favorite 4s piece i've got (from a season later). also have pants and a cardigan in that fabric that are incredible (really nubby boucle and the tiniest sheen from the lurex). if the make of the vest matches the later season, that is a real real gem
yeah iāve seen this tee floating around for a while. guy should just call it a day and donate it or something
the vest material seems so nice. i already have a camiel vest that fills the same hole but if it dips more i might have to consider š©
fwiw i think the seller got in yoox for like $100. also selling 18e shit though, so probably a "I KNOW WUT I GOT" guy
ben schwartz wearing the raffia -- looks way better on him than i've seen anywhere https://www.instagram.com/p/C6BxVXQLwzZ/?img_index=2
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i definetly did not like it in person
same, but at least someone in the world is wearing it well
Lowest this stuff will get: some previous season stuff. Extra20 for 20% off sale.
https://www.sneakersnstuff.com/en/1787/4sdesigns
Highlights:
* Shorts in nearly full size runs (viscose gym shorts and viscose/cotton fatigue shorts)
* Leopard Viscose Shirt (all sizes)
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@algoresky do you happen to have a list of current stockists
Need to know where to watch the sales
Mr. Porter and Saks both went straight to 50% off on 4S looks like
def,lemme update my list
I still need to stop by the stockist in boston
The owner made the 4S insta lol
some cool stuff from what i've seen
OH FUCK stop me smiles https://www.nordstrom.com/s/flak-utility-bomber-jacket/7878134
Asking the wrong person I say go for it
@Smiles here ya go. inventory is wrong, mostly just me trying to look at how fucked porter/saks/kith/etc are for initial pricing https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vqR46TPMOAg9hDr1ZG7s5GXP-appLJgIGDGoPCy9Z1A/edit
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4sdesigns stockists march 2024
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posting this here because it's the best thing 4s has done and will disappear when it sells through
and the spot to keep an eye on is fwrd, they go super deep and didn't have their 4s buy up until like a week and a half ago
Hmmm good to know
not enough people stocking the silk blazer i want
should also note Cueva is doing a secret 20% off sale rn according to their insta
and they generally don't go lower at their size
cueva markup is insane
but i get it, B&M where they are
20% brings it to the same price as today retail lol
ya i thought the guys were awesome when i visited and their curation is top notch, really vibed with it, but their pricing is not good
also considering seeing if i could get the spencer blazer
love the idea of it
that's the cropped joint? the fall one is a good price at upthere and i think farfetch. love the reflective leather on it
nah the blazer with 2 buttoning options
where it can be worn traditional but has more buttons on the lapels for a slightly crooked full button up, but it is cut cropped
oallery's styling leaves a bit to be desired
the double breasted one that mr p has is also cool
but it seems kinda hard to wear
yeah. feels like a piece for char but wildly strange for being such a basic piece (the db). Also fucked that the sleeves on so many of the jackets are fully finished
and tbh the db pisses me off with one stupid detail: satin covered buttons on the sleeves but those MOP anchors on the front
pick one angelo
i don't get the satin ngl
like i get it in a vaccum but it makes it incredibly hard to wear
since it makes it almost dinner jacketish
so you can't just throw it on i feel like
the button stance ends up being so weird on the DB, too. Know it's a riff on YSL vintage, but ends up being weird. I've got the navy viscose from last year or so and it's just such a wack piece overall. the other tailoring rocks, but pass on the DB Imo
good to know
i want the silk blazer and the spencer blazer probably the most this year
unfortunately limited stockists
that silk and the backless are the standouts
the silk blazer is the highlight
whats today's sales normally look like
i know thats your local
saks doesn't have my size in stock
im sure i could swing a 52 but I'd rather a 50
since the military jacket i have is a 50 and it fits great
today sales are nill. similar to cueva, they won't mark down
you might see it marked down by like jan 2025, but even then
Ugh
Have any idea what kith does for sales? I don't see anyone else stocking it besides those 4
they go deep
takes a bit
Bet guess I'll pray for kith then
60-70% from memory
I have my doubts the blazer will last that long but good to know
They seem like my best bet
Or swing the Saks 52
I do need to check my local stockist too since their site sucks so maybe they have shit in person
thought they'd posted a bunch of their buy on ig
nevermind, not finding shit outside of lookbook shots
and not much to the styling, but infinitely better than oallery (LVR)
oh yeah @Smiles forgot -- https://thenextdoor.fr/collections/4sdesigns/products/ls-shirt-blazer . They discount (not super deep) and have a 50
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good looks
thats on par with Saks though I would assume shipping isn't super cheap
huge to keep an eye on though, 4S is way cheaper if you can buy from a Euro spot in my experience
since they don't charge VAT or import fees since that are produced in the EU
This design looks spicy
thats from last year, its very pretty
I really need to pace my ass so maybe if that shirt is still around in a few weeks
I'm still shopping for my proxy :xd:
that rocks -- it's viscose so hangs beautifully
50% at fred segal. if you want the sequin shorts, the hairy vest, or the cardigan setup they might not get much lower (everyone else marked em up 30% higher so for their retail prices) https://www.fredsegal.com/collections/4sdesigns
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near final markdowns at nordstrom https://www.nordstrom.com/brands/4sdesigns--22064?origin=productBrandLink&sort=Newest
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LS Shirt Blazer
100% soieĀ FabriquĆ© en ItalieĀ Le modĆØle mesure 182cm et porte une taille 46 HH/S24/730/1108/48
down to $315
fuck
can't really beat that huh
40 euro shipping though
alright
final moment - you think I should pull trigger? Its total of
ā¬331.67 with shipping (~$356.28)
Seems no VAT in their listed prices
never bought from thenextdoor so dont know if there are any gotchas
just 40 euro express DHL shipping is the only shipping option for the US
it's the price of an eg bedford
sleeves aren't finished if ya gotta hem em
I'm sure I will
honestly $350 is a good deal for this
just a bit of an oof
pulled trigger
there'll be other ocol stuff, sleep on it
lmao
lol
its only cause i wanted to spend it next month
you'll love it
ya i mean its DHL express
ill prob get it tomorrow
Quick photo with bad lighting, touch tight in the shoulder and long sleeves but great fit overall
Material is insane as always
you can't see the translucentness in this photo but its so good
@Smiles have you considered any of the 4s pants to go with your blazer? They have a lot of viscose ones that could be nice. Or possibly have you tried it with the tres-bien one, maybe I overcooked that in my head though?
I don't love a lot of their pant cuts. They don't have any that make a set with this blazer either.
The vicose pants are cool but I have a lot of pants lol
happy with my pants situation rn and none of their current pants are super appealing to me
Personally I think their shorts > pants rn
Over pants would like a word
That's the ones I was looking at haha
valid
i have a pair of the FW pants from them which i do love though, but they are pleather and far too heavy for the summer
They're great. The poly content means they don't hold wrinkles. My favorite of the pants I've tried this season
anyone see anything about ss25? looks like at the very least they decided to not show in paris
@Smiles did you try the leatherdenim jacket at all? Trying to figure out if it fits like a trucker or if it is more of a conventional chore
No sorry
At a guess more like a conventional chore
Just realized there's an internal strap on the shirt Blazer I can hse
the strap that turns it into a cape!
lmao true, but im not gonna use it like that tn
just gonna use it like this
